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Old 2005-12-13, 00:42   #12
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Originally Posted by John Renze
It is conjectured that all Mersenne numbers are squarefree.

http://primes.utm.edu/notes/proofs/SquareMerDiv.html

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only for prime exponents.

9 divides M21.

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Old 2005-12-13, 04:44   #13
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only for prime exponents.

9 divides M21.

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Oops, typo. I meant M12.
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Old 2005-12-13, 12:01   #14
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Oops, typo. I meant M12.
But M12 is not "Mersenne", since "Mersenne" means: the index is prime.

For any primefactor p of M_n it is:

Code:

              n
              ~ ( f + {n,p}')
 n            s
2  - 1  = x* p                        
where
  • s is the S-ize (or order) of the multiplicative cyclic subgroup of 2^k (mod p)
  • f is the power of p at its F-irst occurence (at n=s)
  • n~s is 1 if s divedes n and is 0, if not
  • {n,p}' = n~s + n~s² + n~s³ +... = max power of primefactor p in n

So s(3) is 2, and f at (2^2-1 = x*3^1) is 1 and since in your example we have n=12 this is for the primefactor 3:
Code:

              12
              ~ ( f + {12,3}')
 12           2
2  - 1  = x* 3                     

              1 ( 1 + 1 ) 
        = x* 3               // 2 divides 12,  and 3 is in 12 to the power of 1

              2
        = x*3      = x* 9                
and thus M12 contains 3 to the power of 2.

But the interesting question is: is there a Mersenne-number (where the index is prime) having any primefactor to a higher power than 1?
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Old 2005-12-13, 12:15   #15
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Originally Posted by wblipp
I know of three examples of squares dividing p^q-1 for odd p and q less than 100

11^2 | 3^5
7^2 | 67^3
47^2 | 71^23

I also have some examples for larger values of p if that's of any interest. Also a few examples of cubed divisors.
one with exponent 4

2819^3 - 1 = x* 19^4

and forms of the following type have even higher powered primefactors

127^2 - 1 = x* 2^7
255^2 - 1 = x* 2^8
242^2 - 1 = x* 3^5

;-)
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Old 2005-12-13, 16:56   #16
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if a==-1 or +1 (mod p^2)

then all a are such that a^p-1 =1 (mod p^2)
I think a must be smaller than p.

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Old 2005-12-14, 06:55   #17
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Only solution to a^x-b^y=1
(2^1) - (1^2) = 1
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