Electrical Service Rates - Page 8

Dr Sardonicus · 2022-02-07, 23:59

My utility bill has the cost of the juice listed as the electric supply charge (a bit under 4.6 cents per kwh), and electric delivery charges. These include a "distribution delivery charge" of 3.2 cents per kwh, and flat rate "customer" and "meter" charges, which raise the delivery charges to more than the juice itself costs.

There are also taxes, fees etc. The total is shocking.

And then there's the natural gas part of the bill...

paulunderwood · 2022-02-08, 00:29

Rates over here are about 25p/day for transmission and anything between 28p and 35p for a KWh (at the moment). The hike in the cost of electricity and gas is adversely affecting disproportionately millions of poor people who languish (while those in power and the rich seem to be magnamonous). My personal solution is to shut down completely all crunching in warmer months, have only a symbiotic relationship to my prime hunting hobby.

storm5510 · 2022-02-09, 16:39

It seems I was incorrect about the cost. Considerably incorrect.

The statewide average here is $0.1285. Individual counties vary. Some of the more populated areas, like Indianapolis (Marion Co.), pay $0.13xx per kWh. Lower population density, $0.11xx per kWh. I do not know what the exact rate is for my county. Somewhere in between. The population here is somewhat more than any of the adjacent counties and a lot less than others farther away. The average monthly charge in the graphic is just about what I pay each month, except for January and February. There are currently 13 "riders" on my bill. Some sneak the cost up a little, and others down. Fuel cost, transmission loss, and so on. Most of Duke's stations are fossil fuel. A few are nuclear. I apologize for the fuss!

bhelmes · 2022-02-09, 21:45

I pay 0,32 Euro / kwh in Germany, it is "ökostrom" means generated in Flensburg.
I think finding the next Mp will delight me a lot more.
The search for the next Mp seems to be difficult,
one good reason for a mathematician attitude is patience and endurance.

chalsall · 2022-02-09, 22:11

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Originally Posted by bhelmes

I pay 0,32 Euro / kwh in Germany, it is "ökostrom" means generated in Flensburg.

I envy your provider's ability to interconnect. Here in little Bimshire, we are entirely self-sufficient with regards to electrons.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhelmes

I think finding the next Mp will delight me a lot more. The search for the next Mp seems to be difficult, one good reason for a mathematician attitude is patience and endurance.

Yup.

For you. Me. And many.

Should be Really Soon Now (RSN)...

chalsall · 2022-02-09, 23:28

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Originally Posted by chalsall

Here in little Bimshire, we are entirely self-sufficient with regards to electrons.

I'm sorry everyone reading this...

My bad... I made a mistake. And I misspoke... I would like to apply a "delta" to my above.

Barbados is currently entirely /self-reliant/ for our GTD "power" (read: electrons). We are very far from self-sufficient. At the moment.

We are working to change that. Barbados is very likely to actually go carbon negative by 2030.

It's all a bit complicated. As are, I have found, most things.

storm5510 · 2022-02-11, 18:02

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Originally Posted by chalsall

,,,Barbados is very likely to actually go carbon negative by 2030...

Geothermal, solar, wind, or nuclear, or a combination of any. Which do you think it might be?

Personally, I would not want to be confined to an island with a reactor going sideways. I can see them using solar and wind.

retina · 2022-02-11, 18:09

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Originally Posted by storm5510

... I would not want to be confined to an island with a reactor going sideways.

Depends upon the size of the island. Greenland is an island.

kriesel · 2022-02-11, 19:45

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Originally Posted by retina

Greenland is an island.

It's hard for me to imagine either commericially justifying a reactor. Greenland at 56,081 is less than one fifth the 287,708 population of Barbados. Although there are some small designs built.
https://www.power-technology.com/fea...ctors-4144463/

Uncwilly · 2022-02-11, 22:38

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Originally Posted by retina

Depends upon the size of the island. Greenland is an island.

Some think New Zealand is not an island nation, rather a continent. So it would ok for them to have a nuke.

Dr Sardonicus · 2022-02-12, 02:05

Here in the good ol' USA, nukes on islands have been considered OK for a long time.

Amchitka Island, AK [Long Shot (1965, 80 KT), MILROW (1969, ~1 MT), Cannikin (1971, ~5 MT)] Oh, wait, those were bomb tests.

Three Mile Island, PA. As Meat Loaf sang, two out of three ain't bad.

2022-02-08, 00:29	#79
paulunderwood Sep 2002 Database er0rr 5×937 Posts	Rates over here are about 25p/day for transmission and anything between 28p and 35p for a KWh (at the moment). The hike in the cost of electricity and gas is adversely affecting disproportionately millions of poor people who languish (while those in power and the rich seem to be magnamonous). My personal solution is to shut down completely all crunching in warmer months, have only a symbiotic relationship to my prime hunting hobby. Last fiddled with by paulunderwood on 2022-02-08 at 02:39

2022-02-09, 16:39	#80
storm5510 Random Account Aug 2009 Not U. + S.A. 2860₁₀ Posts	It seems I was incorrect about the cost. Considerably incorrect. The statewide average here is $0.1285. Individual counties vary. Some of the more populated areas, like Indianapolis (Marion Co.), pay $0.13xx per kWh. Lower population density, $0.11xx per kWh. I do not know what the exact rate is for my county. Somewhere in between. The population here is somewhat more than any of the adjacent counties and a lot less than others farther away. The average monthly charge in the graphic is just about what I pay each month, except for January and February. There are currently 13 "riders" on my bill. Some sneak the cost up a little, and others down. Fuel cost, transmission loss, and so on. Most of Duke's stations are fossil fuel. A few are nuclear. I apologize for the fuss! Attached Thumbnails

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2022-02-07, 23:59	#78
Dr Sardonicus Feb 2017 Nowhere 13×17×29 Posts	My utility bill has the cost of the juice listed as the electric supply charge (a bit under 4.6 cents per kwh), and electric delivery charges. These include a "distribution delivery charge" of 3.2 cents per kwh, and flat rate "customer" and "meter" charges, which raise the delivery charges to more than the juice itself costs. There are also taxes, fees etc. The total is shocking. And then there's the natural gas part of the bill...

2022-02-09, 21:45	#81
bhelmes Mar 2016 665₈ Posts	I pay 0,32 Euro / kwh in Germany, it is "ökostrom" means generated in Flensburg. I think finding the next Mp will delight me a lot more. The search for the next Mp seems to be difficult, one good reason for a mathematician attitude is patience and endurance.

2022-02-12, 02:05	#88
Dr Sardonicus Feb 2017 Nowhere 13·17·29 Posts	Here in the good ol' USA, nukes on islands have been considered OK for a long time. Amchitka Island, AK [Long Shot (1965, 80 KT), MILROW (1969, ~1 MT), Cannikin (1971, ~5 MT)] Oh, wait, those were bomb tests. Three Mile Island, PA. As Meat Loaf sang, two out of three ain't bad.