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Old 2018-05-05, 23:56   #23
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The way they were set was, they were driven completely through the door post, and the protruding end of the nail was bent sideways, and pounded flush with the side of the post. A nail set this way was said to be "dead set," a term still used to mean immovability.
I associate that technique with the word 'brad.' My concept of it just involves the 'drive it through, and pound it flat' part. The definition linked is more specific.
EDIT: I had not known the source of the 'dead set' expression. Thanks for info!

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Old 2018-05-06, 04:22   #24
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I associate that technique with the word 'brad.'
Speaking of nail-related names, 'Brad' as a common first name is a mere coincidence with the above, but the surname 'Naylor' derives from nailer/nailor, the word for the old professional nailmakers. ('Brad Naylor' would make a great name for a nail-brand spokesperson.)

Modern hard-to-pull-out nails are the helix-shank ones, having a square shank with a twist. Back in my college carpentry-for-rent-and-expense-money days, the particular brand of those we used was called Ardox. One time we needed to quickly construct a 20-foot-long retaining wall to hold back earth from a staircase leading to a basement apartment, and we ended up using railroad-tie-thick treated lumber timbers nailed together with 12"-long galvanized Ardox spikes to replace the old concrete-filled hollow-masonry-block wall, which had cracked vertically and started to buckle from the pressure of the earth, the reasoning being that, unlike the masonry wall, the long timbers could take a flexural load. Good times.

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Old 2018-05-06, 13:57   #25
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I associate that technique with the word 'brad.' My concept of it just involves the 'drive it through, and pound it flat' part. The definition linked is more specific.
Hmm. My experience with brads comes from when I was helping out with framing some pictures. The brads were pushed partway in to the inside edges of the frame using a "brad pusher," to hold the backing in place. The only time a brad actually got driven all the way through, was when it split the frame, and the end wound up in my other hand, in the "web" area between my thumb and index finger. It was a minor puncture wound, but a day or two later it really started to hurt, and my hand started to stiffen up. I got a tetanus shot, and it cleared up rather quickly.

I know that if you're hammering nails in, you can reduce the chances of splitting the wood by flattening the head of the nail.
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Old 2021-05-04, 08:17   #26
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Old 2021-05-04, 08:36   #27
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Thought that it is puzzle similar to:
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Old 2021-05-04, 12:46   #28
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But in America it is Five Four!
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Old 2021-05-04, 13:50   #29
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But in America it is Five Four!
Yes, what's that all about? Why not chose the sorted/logical format like the rest of the world. AFAIK this is not a matter of Metric vs. Imperial and the Brits/Canadians used the sorted format even when they used to use the Imperial-Units. As Canadians we should use the sorted format, but having most of our-business (My-client's-client's) with the US I use the unsorted format in documents. This can often create confusion on dates relating to the 1st 12 days of the month.

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But in America it is Five Four!
You may not believe, but I spent like more than 5 minutes thinking what title should I give it. I wanted something like "five fourth" or "five fourths" but it would give it away, and "four fifths" which sounds better is not true, also, I don't like "five four", neither "five... four..." it looks like countdown, or going backwards (limited, it reaches zero, etc., while "four... five..." is unlimited, infinite )

Anyhow, any of them, be with you!

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You may not believe, but I spent like more than 5 minutes thinking what title should I give it. I wanted something like "five fourth" or "five fourths" but it would give it away, and "four fifths" which sounds better is not true, also, I don't like "five four", neither "five... four..." it looks like countdown, or going backwards (limited, it reaches zero, etc., while "four... five..." is unlimited, infinite )

Anyhow, any of them, be with you!

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Old 2021-05-04, 19:01   #32
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But in America it is Five Four!
\(5 \over 4\) is the most pleasant meter ever.
  1. take five!
  2. Lalo Schifrin's Mission Impossible theme
  3. 15 Steps by Radiohead
  4. many more
  5. every Tool song has it, but quickly changes to another meter
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Yes, what's that all about? Why not chose the sorted/logical format like the rest of the world. AFAIK this is not a matter of Metric vs. Imperial and the Brits/Canadians used the sorted format even when they used to use the Imperial-Units.
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Long minutes googling turned up the explanation that - it's tradition!

Part of the tradition is, the names of the months were generally written out. The Declaration of Independence has the date, "July 4, 1776." Over the years, the British adopted the continental European practice of giving the date first. We US-ers didn't, though the month name is used less than formerly.

Some legal documents still use formats like "This 4th day of May, 2021" or something similar.
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