COVID vaccination wavefront

[LaurV]

Haha, thanks George. Busted...

[Uncwilly]

I got my second shot last week. My immune system response was substantial. It was not fun. But, I would do it again and again to prevent getting C19.

[masser]

Just got my 1st Pfizer jab, about a month earlier than I expected. Mild nausea has been the only side effect so far.

[Uncwilly]

Originally Posted by masser

Just got my 1st Pfizer jab, about a month earlier than I expected. Mild nausea has been the only side effect so far.

Did you log your data into the poll?

[masser]

Originally Posted by Uncwilly

Did you log your data into the poll?

Of course.

[Batalov]

I will never get tired of saying this (and I am not alone in this, this is not an original idea):
No matter how you detest your government (and how much it lied to you in the past) - do get vaccinated with any local vaccine.
If you can get two vaccines - that's fine - do that too.
If you have already had COVID, still get vaccinated. Protection from past infection is better than nothing but weaker than that from a vaccine.

• Janssen (J&J) is a fine vaccine.
• Pfizer is a fine vaccine.
• Moderna is a fine vaccine.
• AZ is a fine vaccine.
• CovidVac, SinoVac, "Sputnik-V", all of them are fine vaccines.

They are all better than "spitting out pieces of your broken luck" (to paraphrase JT), better than a viral heart damage, better than a viral brain damage that will stay with you for the rest of your life.

Don't hope that you will just lose your sense of smell, or cough hard for a week. It does not amount to just that. Think about early infarction of early dementia (and all other bouquet of PAS-C).

The vaccination is not between you and your hated government - it is between you and the cold, senseless bug that doesn't care about your religion or your political preferences. Protect yourself. Be safe!

(not much of a US problem, this. My message is rather an international one.)

[Uncwilly]

Originally Posted by Batalov

No matter how you detest your government (and how much it lied to you in the past) - do get vaccinated with any local vaccine.
If you can get two vaccines - that's fine - do that too.

• Janssen (J&J) is a fine vaccine.
• Pfizer is a fine vaccine.
• Moderna is a fine vaccine.
• AZ is a fine vaccine.
• CovidVac, SinoVac, "Sputnik-V", all of them are fine vaccines.

Get which ever one you can get your hands on first.

Novavax's vaccine is fine too.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...9-vaccine.html
(I know some one that has been part of the trial.)

[petrw1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3odScka55A

It doesn't matter.
Just get one.

[Dr Sardonicus]

Originally Posted by Batalov

<snip>If you have already had COVID, still get vaccinated. Protection from past infection is better than nothing but weaker than that from a vaccine.

Please explain.

My uncle, who is in his nineties, got vaccinated after recovering from COVID-19, and said it was just like having COVID-19 all over again.

I've heard about similar cases, too. I'm not sure what to make of this phenomenon. Does it perhaps indicate that the vaccines trigger a different immune response than the body's response to being infected? If so, yes, that would seem to mean a strengthened immunization.

If the immune response to the vaccine is distinguishable from that to the actual virus, it also might leave open the possibility of testing for prior infection. If the immune responses are not distinguishable, it might be difficult to tell whether a vaccinated person had also been infected.

There is at least one study underway to determine whether vaccinated people can still be "silently" infected (I have heard of at least one fully vaccinated person who tested positive), and if so, whether the virus they shed is still infectious.

I add to the chorus - get vaccinated! Which is best? The one you can get first!

[pinhodecarlos]

Also stop complaining about the vaccination risk. In life there is no 0% risk.

[Dr Sardonicus]

Originally Posted by pinhodecarlos

Also stop complaining about the vaccination risk. In life there is no 0% risk.

Sadly, most prison staff are refusing the vaccine. Their reasons include distrust of prison administration, fear of "long-term effects" of the vaccine, and belief in lunatic nonsense being crapped all over social media and the internet - the vaccine "contains tracking devices." It will "mutate your DNA." and on and on. Some say they would rather be fired than take the shot.

I've been watching US law enforcement line-of-duty deaths (LODDs) at the Officer Down Memorial page. Changing the year to 2020 shows last year's figures. Over half the LODDs have been from COVID-19. Of the COVID-19 LODDs, most have been corrections officers or other officers who worked with prisoners; most of the rest have been Homeland Security working at border crossings. Texas has an especially dismal record.

Unfortunately, people who would refuse vaccination for a disease that has their peers dropping like flies are unlikely to be swayed by facts and reason.