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Dec 2003
Belgium
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errata case a4 + 1
Same reasoning gives (1) a[B]8[/B]k+[B]4[/B] - 1 ≡ 0 mod p; (2) ....=a8k+[B]4[/B] + 1 ≡ 0 mop p -michael Last fiddled with by michael on 2004-01-21 at 00:28 |
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∂2ω=0
Sep 2002
República de California
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Aug 2004
Melbourne, Australia
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Theorem 1: Let q be an odd prime divisor of 2^p-1 where p is an odd prime. Then q = 2pk + 1 for some natural number k.
Proof: Since q divides 2^p-1 we know that 2^p = 1 mod q By Fermat's Little Theorem 2^q-1 = 1 mod q Hence 2^GCD(p,q-1) = 1 mod q. GCD(p,q-1) = 1 is nonsense. So GCD(p,q-1) > 1. Since p is a prime p must divide q-1. Hence q-1 = cp for some natural number c. c is even since q and p were assumed to be odd. Theorem 2: Let q be an odd prime divisor of 2^p-1 where p is an odd prime. Then q = 8n +/- 1 for some natural number n. Proof: Consider 2(2^p-1) = 2^p+1 - 2 = x^2 - 2 where x = 2^((p+1)/2). Since q divides 2^p-1 then q divides x^2 - 2. So x^2 = 2 mod q. As q is odd, q is of the form 8n +/- 1 or 8n +/- 3. We will contradict the latter case. Since the equation x^2 = 2 mod q has an integer solution, we know that 2 is a quadratic residue modulo q. However if q = 8n +/- 3, then 2 is not a quadratic residue modulo q. |
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Why from these:
2^p = 1 mod q 2^(q-1) = 1 mod q You conclude this: 2^GCD(p,q-1) = 1 mod q ? proof? |
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Nov 2003
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Hint2: Given the results of performing Hint1, what can you conclude about GCD(p,q-1)???? |
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Jul 2007
Poland
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But I've found that q=2k+1 is a divisor of Mp if there exists a solution of equation x^2=k+1 mod q. Example: 23 can be a divisor of 2^11-1 (and it is) since 9^2=81=12 mod 23. I've checked some q's and in all cases q=+/-1 mod 8. The reciprocal theorem is false, i.e. not all q=+/-1 (mod 8) have solution of the equation provided (e.g. q=111, 121). Some results: Code:
x^2 k+1 q 19^2 = 52 mod 103 (=7 mod 8), for k= 51 31^2 = 57 mod 113 (=1 mod 8), for k= 56 37^2 = 60 mod 119 (=7 mod 8), for k= 59 two solutions 54^2 = 60 mod 119 (=7 mod 8), for k= 59 8^2 = 64 mod 127 (=7 mod 8), for k= 63 53^2 = 69 mod 137 (=1 mod 8), for k= 68 23^2 = 76 mod 151 (=7 mod 8), for k= 75 9^2 = 81 mod 161 (=1 mod 8), for k= 80 two solutions 37^2 = 81 mod 161 (=1 mod 8), for k= 80 77^2 = 84 mod 167 (=7 mod 8), for k= 83 67^2 = 96 mod 191 (=7 mod 8), for k= 95 26^2 = 97 mod 193 (=1 mod 8), for k= 96 10^2 = 100 mod 199 (=7 mod 8), for k= 99 1. Can it be proven that x^2=(k+1) mod (q=2k+1) has solution for q=+/-1 mod 8 only? 2. Is there anything common in these two approaches (equations x^2=2 and x^2=k+1)? Last fiddled with by WsF on 2007-08-05 at 05:59 |
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Aug 2002
Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Now 1 = 2k+2 = 2(k+1) (mod 2k+1) This means that k+1 is a quadratic residue if and only if 2 is a quadratic residue mod 2k+1: if x^2 = 2 and y^2 = k+1 then xy = (+/-)1 (mod 2k+1) |
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Jul 2007
Poland
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Can we obtain more strict restriction on q? In the short listing presented above for 50<k<100 (49 numbers) only 11 of them have solutions [59 and 80 two solutions] of x^2=2 and y^2=k+1 (at the same time, as you've shown).
In the range 1<k<10^4 there are 2527 solutions, but the number of k's is smaller since there are multiple solutions, e.g. for q=19873 (k=9936) x=411, 3250, 4933, 7772. So, the number of solutions is more or less OK (one fourth) but the number of k's (so q's) is smaller. In the range 1<k<10^4 a number of different k's is 1798. Is there a simple rule to eliminate this 0.25-0.18=0.07=7.0% of the range investigated? This 7% in the range gives 28% (702/2500) in a set of q=+/-1 mod 8. |
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"Forget I exist"
Jul 2009
Dumbassville
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∂2ω=0
Sep 2002
República de California
19·613 Posts |
Quick necropost to tie up a few loose ends related to the extra power of 2 (over the 2^(n+1) known to Euler) proved to be present in Fermat number factors by Lucas. In the first quoted snip below I've modified my initial notation (replacing q by p for the factor and p by 2^n for the Fermat number exponent ... I had originally used q,p by way of analogy with Mersenne number factors):
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For this altrnate proof we want to make use of the fact that 2^2^(n+1) == +1 (mod p), so raise both sides of [QR] to the 2^(n+1)th power: (m^2)^2^(n+1) = m^2^(n+2) == 2^2^(n+1) == +1 (mod p), from which it immediately follows that the image of m has order 2^(n+2) in the multiplicative group (mod p), thus we have added one more power of 2 to the basic form of our factors: p == 1 (mod 2^(n+2)). |
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