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Old 2020-04-22, 18:44   #23
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I would go with Misner, Thorne, & Wheeler- I don't know why, but there is something calming (comforting?) about the orderliness and logic, though admittedly complicated, of such concepts.
By "Penrose" I meant "The Road to Reality". Apologies for any ambiguity.
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Old 2020-04-24, 16:38   #24
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Life is like the universe.

Without purpose and almost entirely cold, dark and empty.

There are a few highlights but they are mostly isolated and ephemeral in the overall scheme of things.
I lived this life for a long time. At some point, I stopped caring about many things. I found myself being much more content. I will enter senior citizenry in October. I am glad I let the vast majority of it go.
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Old 2020-04-24, 18:15   #25
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In the second place, I say, with all due respect, you don't know that life is without purpose.
I know very little.

The only things I know are those which are unambiguously defined. For instance, I know that a triangle has three vertices because that is (essentially) the definition of a triangle.
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Old 2020-04-24, 18:23   #26
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Life expectancy for the average human: One


I'd go further: for everyone.

Even assuming technological advantages which may (or may not) extend lifespan to any significant extent, nucleon decay is likely to be a pretty big downer.

As has been said:

Oh, woe is me,
My life is a misery
Oh, canโ€™t you see
That Iโ€™m at the start of a pretty big downer
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Old 2020-04-24, 19:08   #27
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The only life that is assuredly without purpose is the one which is lived so.
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Old 2020-04-24, 19:15   #28
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The only life that is assuredly without purpose is the one which is lived so.
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Old 2020-04-24, 19:39   #29
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Life expectancy for the average human: One
Eventually there may be more than one. Technology is still woefully primitive.
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Eventually there may be more than one. Technology is still woefully primitive.
Wouldn't it be more like 1 vs 1, as opposed to 1 vs 2

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Old 2020-04-24, 20:22   #31
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In the words of Walt Whitman:

That you are hereโ€”that life exists and identity,
That the powerful play goes on, and you may contribute a verse.
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Old 2020-04-24, 23:04   #32
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I'd go further: for everyone.

Even assuming technological advantages which may (or may not) extend lifespan to any significant extent, nucleon decay is likely to be a pretty big downer.

As has been said:

Oh, woe is me,
My life is a misery
Oh, canโ€™t you see
That Iโ€™m at the start of a pretty big downer
Well, I lay my head on the railroad track
Waiting on the double E
But the train don't run by here no more
Poor, poor pitiful me
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Old 2020-04-25, 01:24   #33
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Well, I lay my head on the railroad track
Waiting on the double E
But the train don't run by here no more
Poor, poor pitiful me
This Charles Addams cartoon comes to mind...
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