Manic of a panic is geopolitical

[VBCurtis]

Originally Posted by ewmayer

Any further pure-bickering posts are gonna get memory-holed - links and representative-sample quotes, that's what we want.

This thread is useful, despite the whinging of some posters, because of the well-sourced and fact-based discussion.

[R. Gerbicz]

https://medium.com/@dinber19/more-wi...s-8ba1a2cd8b67
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....26.20039438v1

Pretty trivial, I guessed the method after I have first read only the lead of a similar article in Hungarian that we could easily test ten millions in a few days and the number 64.

[ATH]

https://electricliterature.com/ted-c...denly-live-in/

TC: While there has been plenty of fiction written about pandemics, I think the biggest difference between those scenarios and our reality is how poorly our government has handled it. If your goal is to dramatize the threat posed by an unknown virus, there’s no advantage in depicting the officials responding as incompetent, because that minimizes the threat; it leads the reader to conclude that the virus wouldn’t be dangerous if competent people were on the job. A pandemic story like that would be similar to what’s known as an “idiot plot,” a plot that would be resolved very quickly if your protagonist weren’t an idiot. What we’re living through is only partly a disaster novel; it’s also—and perhaps mostly—a grotesque political satire.

[ewmayer]

Coronavirus: Artania cruise ship stand-off continues in Australia | BBC

A reader from Oz comments:

There is a whole story behind this simple article. The Artania is docked in Fremantle in Western Australia and I believe that there are at least two other liners parked off the coastline wanting to come in. Meanwhile, off Sydney, there are nine other ocean liners that have a combined crew and passenger count of about 8,500 people. Altogether there are 21 ships carrying tens of thousands of people around the entire Australian coastline wanting to come in. The reason why they are there is simple. Their owners, like Carnival, want Australia to deal with all those people and treat all their sick for them for free so that at most they are only up for docking fees.

But it can’t be done. If attempted, the numbers would overwhelm our health system with sheer numbers but these ships refuse to go to their home ports. A spokesmen for Carnival said “It is bitterly disappointing that short term responses have put an industry, jobs and people at risk” but it is not that simple. It is trying to make their problems somebody else’s problem which is why they ordered their ships to sail to Australia. In fact these cruise line companies have also been lying by saying that they have no sick aboard when in fact they have hundreds. The Police have just visited one liner in full bio-hazard gear to find out what the actual situation is aboard.

If this sounds hard, it is a common feeling here because of something that happened a fortnight ago. A ship called the Ruby Princess was allowed to dock in Sydney and apparently they told NSW health they had no sick aboard and so 2,700 passengers were allowed to disembark. These people scattered to all around Australia as well as overseas and they took infection with them. More than 400 Coronavirus cases – 10% of Australia’s total – came from the Ruby Princess cruise ship and they have caused Coronavirus hot-spots in places like airports, South Australia, Customs officers, etc. and they are still trying to deal with that mess. They had to bring soldiers in as tracers due to the numbers involved. It was a massive c***-up. I believe that the US too is experiencing this problem and they ordered one ocean liner away. When this is all over, I think that countries are going to be visiting these cruise line companies and their relation to laws as they see to think that they are a law unto themselves.

In more-personal news, gonna start wearing one of those thin fabric earloop masks on my outside walks - expect CA will mandate this in next few days. Should allow me still breathe more or less freely, unlike the heavier-duty N95 ones. What a year...

[chalsall]

As of this evening, Barbados is on a mandatory 24/7 lockdown for two weeks.

People are bitching because alcohol sales have been forbidden, so the Rum Shops are closed... Sigh...

[PhilF]

Originally Posted by chalsall

People are bitching because alcohol sales have been forbidden, so the Rum Shops are closed... Sigh...

They tried that here in some places in the USA by closing liquor stores, but had to back off. Most are now open again. The pot shops are open too.

[Dr Sardonicus]

Originally Posted by chalsall

As of this evening, Barbados is on a mandatory 24/7 lockdown for two weeks.

People are bitching because alcohol sales have been forbidden, so the Rum Shops are closed... Sigh...

So, how long will did it take for the first home still to start producing hooch?

[chalsall]

Originally Posted by Dr Sardonicus

So, how long will did it take for the first home still to start producing hooch?

Actually, our neighbour gave us a couple of bottles of his home made wine this morning "to try out". It's probably going to be horribly sweet, but I suspect his production is going to sky-rocket!

[PhilF]

Originally Posted by chalsall

but I suspect his production is going to sky-rocket!

Not to mention yours...

[kriesel]

Tonight's numbers:
globally: 1015709 cases, 53069 deaths, 211409 recovered
CFR1 = 53069 / (53069+211409) = 0.2007 = 20.07%
CFR2 = 53069 / 1015709 = 0.0522 = 5.22%
USA: 246213 cases, 5133 deaths, 9090 recovered
CFR1 = 5133/(5133+9090) = 0.361 = 36.1%
CFR2 = 5133 / 246213 = 0.0208 = 2.08%
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashb...23467b48e9ecf6 is failing to retrieve currently

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
global: 1015728 cases, 53202 deaths, 212991 recovered, 749535 active cases of which 5% are serious or critical
USA: 245088 cases, 6075 deaths, 10403 recovered, 228610 active of which 5421 are serious or critical; 18 deaths/million population

Too many locales are still climbing at a brisk exponential rate.

[LaurV]

Originally Posted by chalsall

People are bitching because alcohol sales have been forbidden, so the Rum Shops are closed... Sigh...

When no Pascal, switch to C...