Your Once and Final Supreme Double Impeachee

[chalsall]

Originally Posted by ewmayer

...your body breaks down, those kinds of things can change your perception of such matters in quite profound ways.

Another example... You live in the tropics, and manage to catch the Chikungunya virus.

Reduced from typing at 80 words per minute for 12 hours a day to five words per minute for at most five minutes per hour. And barely able to walk. For 18 months...

The young don't understand what it is like to grow old....

[kladner]

More than two years after the allegation of Russian hacking of the 2016 U.S. presidential election was first made, conclusive proof is still lacking and may never be produced, says Ray McGovern.

It seems that this Lie has made it round the world a bunch of times, while the Truth is still fumbling with its boot laces.

If you are wondering why so little is heard these days of accusations that Russia hacked into the U.S. election in 2016, it could be because those charges could not withstand close scrutiny. It could also be because special counsel Robert Mueller appears to have never bothered to investigate what was once the central alleged crime in Russia-gate as no one associated with WikiLeaks has ever been questioned by his team.

Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity — including two “alumni” who were former National Security Agency technical directors — have long since concluded that Julian Assange did not acquire what he called the “emails related to Hillary Clinton” via a “hack” by the Russians or anyone else. They found, rather, that he got them from someone with physical access to Democratic National Committee computers who copied the material onto an external storage device — probably a thumb drive. In December 2016 VIPS explained this in some detail in an open Memorandum to President Barack Obama.

[petrw1]

Originally Posted by chalsall

Another example... You live in the tropics, and manage to catch the Chikungunya virus.

Reduced from typing at 80 words per minute for 12 hours a day to five words per minute for at most five minutes per hour. And barely able to walk. For 18 months...

The young don't understand what it is like to grow old....

Oh dear I thought you were almost completely recovered.

How do you ever manage the Jack Hammer?

[kladner]

Hey Chris,
After what you've been through, I hope that Barbados is not home to Leishmania. I am reading about an archaeological effort in Honduras, (The Lost City of the Monkey God -Douglas Preston.)
Almost everyone one who was on the deep jungle site was infected with this protozoan parasite, which is transmitted by sand flies between humans and host-animal reservoirs. It is ugly. It can be driven into remission with drugs which tend to be unpleasant to outright threatening. It is not know if it is actually curable, especially the Central American variety.

[devarajkandadai]

Originally Posted by Brian-E

You're quite right. Clearly the new US president will have to be someone who can talk intelligently about cartoons.

Is this an appropriate platform for politics?

[axn]

Originally Posted by devarajkandadai

Is this an appropriate platform for politics?

Yes... as long as you restrict yourself to the Soapbox subforum, which this thread is.

[MisterBitcoin]

You can´t take away chrildrens from their parents, it´s not only cruel. It´s also against international law.
Thats comes from a german, you should now stand-up and get rid fo him. "AmerikaFirst" is bullshit, it does not allow to start concentrations camps. YES, that´s is a concentration camp, not more not less.

[Dr Sardonicus]

Originally Posted by MisterBitcoin

You can´t take away chrildrens from their parents, it´s not only cruel. It´s also against international law.

Ah, but the videos give Il Duce something to laugh about!

In a manner reminiscent of how our forbears used religion to justify slavery, Jeff Sessions even cited the Bible to justify this abomination. I'm sure he was referring to Matthew 25:43-45 and Luke 10:25-37
;-)

[kladner]

Originally Posted by Dr Sardonicus

Ah, but the videos give Il Duce something to laugh about!

In a manner reminiscent of how our forbears used religion to justify slavery, Jeff Sessions even cited the Bible to justify this abomination. I'm sure he was referring to Matthew 25:43-45 and Luke 10:25-37
;-)

Shirley! You jest!

[ewmayer]

As incontrovertibly horrifying as the the border separations are, just in case anyone was under the illusion that this is some kind of brand-new policy:

There seems to be confusion. To be clear, family separation and child detention are a basic feature of American deportation proceedings. They occur on a routine and systematic basis, even if the government in charge isn’t pounding its chest about it.

In fact, immigrant communities were outspoken on this reality for many, many years.

Family separation was a frontline issue for immigration activists for the last decade or more. They warned of a generation of orphans scarred by the loss of their parents. They cautioned that Obama expanded deportation forces on his own to a degree that would be horribly exploited by a Republican president. (At the time, they were worried about Mitt Romney.)

The Obama administration conceded as much on the issue of separation in 2011, when Cecilia Muñoz, White House director of intergovernmental affairs, told PBS, “Even if the [immigration] law is executed with perfection, there will be parents separated from their children.”

Many liberals contend Obama never ripped babies from the arms of screaming parents. They should ask, for example, the over 150,000 immigrant children separated from their parents due to detention and deportation proceedings in 2012 if that’s true. Or the over 500,000 immigrant children, who experienced separation between 1998 and that year.

The majority of those children were under 10 years-old. Over 5,000 were placed into foster care. Specifically, these were children whose parents were deported, not minors who came to the border unaccompanied.

Liberals suggest this separation under Obama was different than what’s happening under Trump because some of the children may have been born here and therefore not eligible for deportation like their parents. They argue families may have been separated, but Obama didn’t do what Trump is doing now.

These are troubling procedural arguments that legitimize certain kinds of violence.

Some liberals have said, even if Obama’s deportation machine was larger (and remember, it was twice as large), it was somehow kinder and gentler than Trump’s because Obama incarcerated families together and he didn’t jail kids alone. They see this as an example of how the Obama administration showed empathy towards families.

This is another semantic argument, and a rather twisted one at that because once again this argument involves defending the violence that occurs in detention. And because of that, the truth is missed.

Family detention centers were well-known havens for sexual violence and deprivation. They were overcrowded and lacked basic medical care. Numerous reports warned of these conditions over the years but were ignored throughout Obama’s presidency.

Ironically, even family detention involved separation, as the facilities primarily held women and children. Men were incarcerated separately and often forced to labor in dangerous conditions for little-to-no pay.

Obama organized ad campaigns in Central America that used the violent specter of these experiences to try and dissuade people from coming to the U.S. or sending their kids unaccompanied. Families were targeted for raids, which resulted in the detention of children and widespread fear in immigrant communities. That forced many to go deeper underground.

When unaccompanied minors were arrested on the border, they were placed in detention. Depending on where they arrived from and whether they were assessed to be victims of trauma or abuse, they would be deported or placed in foster care.

Hey, if it takes Trump adding his unique mix of awfulness and bombast to these proceedings to generate the mass outrage needed to force change, great - but the flagrant hypocrisy from the liberal virtue-signalers who were silent on the issue during the Obama and Clinton years is deserving of little more than scorn.

And a quick pop quiz - see if you can get it right without cheating: Which 8-year administration deported the largest number of undocumented migrants, Obama, Bush or Clinton?

[kladner]

Originally Posted by ewmayer

As incontrovertibly horrifying as the the border separations are, just in case anyone was under the illusion that this is some kind of brand-new policy:

Hey, if it takes Trump adding his unique mix of awfulness and bombast to these proceedings to generate the mass outrage needed to force change, great - but the flagrant hypocrisy from the liberal virtue-signalers who were silent on the issue during the Obama and Clinton years is deserving of little more than scorn.

And a quick pop quiz - see if you can get it right without cheating: Which 8-year administration deported the largest number of undocumented migrants, Obama, Bush or Clinton?

Obama vastly exceeded the Bush numbers. Clinton has to be third ranked.