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"Evan"
Dec 2017
Houston, TX
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I get it Prime95 has a tried and true method so why stray from it right? Have you ever seen the video on youtube of Richard Feynman discussing the difference between Mathematicians and Physicists? the whole video is good but the part I am referring to startes at about 5:40. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obCjODeoLVw He basically goes on to say that guessing the equation seems to be a good way to discover new things... essentially I would like to apply my personal method to finding prime numbers and testing those... I just have no way to test... womp womp womp .... guess I need to really learn programming now... :) Last fiddled with by evanh on 2017-12-23 at 17:28 |
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Undefined
"The unspeakable one"
Jun 2006
My evil lair
24·389 Posts |
Those results don't apply to 1 billion digit exponents. There is no software in existence that can test such an enormous number. There is no computer in existence that can even store such an enormous number. Do you really know what you are asking for? Even in the best possible case of a base-2 one-billion-digit-exponent that is still something like 10332...<skip ~999,999,993 digits>...xxx.
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"Evan"
Dec 2017
Houston, TX
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"Forget I exist"
Jul 2009
Dumbassville
26×131 Posts |
That's still over 3 GB to store the number.
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"Evan"
Dec 2017
Houston, TX
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That is pretty cool, how did you come up with that storage size?
Also, is this a reason that the calculation could not be done? I have storage space, RAM.. and more importantly... time :) |
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"Rashid Naimi"
Oct 2015
Remote to Here/There
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Evan,
Have you looked into Pari-Gp. It's isprime function is deterministic and one of the fastest off the shelf functions for primality testing. For general form primes you can use primo it has limited (but large) parallel processing capability. It can only run on 64 bit Linux machine and will require a few lifetimes to come up with certificates for very large numbers. IMHO your best chance of proving your 1G dd integer prime is writing your own code using Lucas primally test and not LL test. You will have to write your own code make your own hardware (a PC won't do) and find all the prime factors of n-1 where n is your prime candidate. This could be trivial and virtually instantaneous (relatively speaking) if the C in your formula can be -1. If you see a discussion about the number of atoms in the universe, you can just ignore them Last fiddled with by a1call on 2017-12-23 at 18:24 |
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"Forget I exist"
Jul 2009
Dumbassville
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okay my math is bit off,. It's all to do with logarithms. Also look up computational complexity.
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"Luigi"
Aug 2002
Team Italia
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Such subject is all about how "hard" a calculation is, based on simple atomic operations. It also explain things like logarithmic, linear, polynomial and exponential time to reach a result (you should have learnt about asymptotics while studying Calculus I). Using such tools it becomes quite easy to define how long a computation will take, and how many bytes it will need to accomplish its goal.And, yes, the answer to your last qustion lies on it. Unless you have petabytes of RAM and at least 85 years' time, you won't succeed. Last fiddled with by ET_ on 2017-12-23 at 18:28 Reason: sm_88 beat me to it... |
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"Evan"
Dec 2017
Houston, TX
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Perhaps I will try my method on 100,000,000 digit primes and if my probabilistic test within Maple comes up "true" then I can move forward from there. Also, I guess I can start here>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comput...plexity_theory then move on to the textbooks referenced on that site. |
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"Evan"
Dec 2017
Houston, TX
1E16 Posts |
currently working on a number close to this one, Maplesoft.. The only problem is that I do not have an estimated time to completion and no way to save my progress.
usually if the number is "false" it returns fairly quickly.. this one is taking its time so we shall see. Last fiddled with by evanh on 2017-12-23 at 19:42 Reason: to make more clear |
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"Curtis"
Feb 2005
Riverside, CA
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Try 10,000 digits. Then try 100,000. Then consider how much longer the second case takes, extrapolate. Perhaps once you have a concept of how many lifetimes your goal will take, you can then explore the limits of the software you have available to you.
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