Strategic Double Clicking - Page 140

storm5510 · 2017-07-18, 05:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATH

If this ever happens again and Prime95 did not autorecover the backup files I would:
1) Stop Prime95 and check Task Manager (on the "Processes tab" in Win7 or "details" tab in Windows 10) that no prime95.exe is still running)
2) Move the savefile without lastname out of the Prime95 folder, lets say its called "p81N3639"
3) copy p81N3639.bu to p81N3639
4) start Prime95 again and see if it started from the 2nd to last backup spot. (What is the default time between backups?)
5) If it did not work: Delete p81N3639
6) copy p81N3639.bu2 to p81N3639
7) Start Prime95 again and see if it started the 3rd to last backup successfully.

I didn't think Prime95 would be able to 'multiple-instance.' Of course, there is a variant that can be ran as a service, but I do not have that here.

I believe I could write a small application that would copy the primary backup file to another folder, at a regular interval, and add to the name something like a number. An example would be "p0G04952-0001." The last for digits would imcrement on each copy. The only required option would be to select a source name. The only hurtle that I can think of at the moment would be some type of a 'lock' on the file that would prevent it from being duplicated, and to avoid attempting to copy it when Prime95 has it open for updating.

kladner · 2017-07-18, 05:32

Why not use the InterimFiles=xxxxxxxxxxxxx? It is built in and works. Since the files are time-stamped, you can use the time stamps of the errors to find the error-free point in the timeline.
EDIT: Yes, the interims do pile up. I just tossed 14GB of the things. Working in the lower 40Ms, each file is nearly 5 MB.

storm5510 · 2017-07-18, 05:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by kladner

Why not use the InterimFiles=xxxxxxxxxxxxx? It is built in and works. Since the files are time-stamped, you can use the time stamps of the errors to find the error-free point in the timeline.

I just found this in undoc.txt. I have it currently set to every 500,000 iterations. That translates to about 30 minutes on this hardware. Of couse, I will end up with a lot that has to be manually deleted. I added it to prime.txt just as Prime95 was about to finish a DC. I probably will increase the value to 1,000,000. I can delete the older ones as it goes along.

Thanks!

kladner · 2017-07-18, 05:45

I am happy to pass it along. I knew it existed, but didn't remember the name correctly. It took some Googling of the forum to track it down.
EDIT:

Quote:

Of couse, I will end up with a lot that has to be manually deleted.

Maybe, instead of the backup scheme you talked about, you could write something to delete out-of-date interim files. A batch file would do the job, yes?

S485122 · 2017-07-18, 09:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by storm5510

I didn't think Prime95 would be able to 'multiple-instance.' Of course, there is a variant that can be ran as a service, but I do not have that here.
....

You can run as many instances of Prime95 as you wish on a single computer, provided you start them from different folders. Of course, once you have more concurrent workers than there are cores, the performance will not be very good.

Jacob

storm5510 · 2017-07-18, 15:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by kladner

Maybe, instead of the backup scheme you talked about, you could write something to delete out-of-date interim files. A batch file would do the job, yes?

Yes, I agree. I would need to do some studying of batch commands. I am sure it has evolved a lot since I was a frequent user in the DOS days.

Quote:

Originally Posted by S485122

You can run as many instances of Prime95 as you wish on a single computer, provided you start them from different folders. Of course, once you have more concurrent workers than there are cores, the performance will not be very good.

Oh, I see. I keep Windows Task Manager pinned to the task bar. If I see something a bit strange going on, like a lot of HD activity, I use it to see what the source is. To date, I have never seen more than a single instance of Prime95 on either of my machines.

storm5510 · 2017-07-19, 03:59

I just discovered that the interim backup files are not independent of each other. They are part of a larger archive. I copied all the parts to a different folder and extracted them. I ended with one large file, 155 MB in size. I am not sure what Prime95 would be able to do with this! Does anyone have any ideas?

ATH · 2017-07-19, 08:14

The file without last name is the normal backup file, the first interim backup file should be called .001.

If you take any of the single files and open them with for example 7-zip you can extract them individually as well. Prime95 compresses the files with an algorithm that 7-zip and WinRAR recognize (LZW?), and since the files are called .0xx they automatically concatenate them into one big file which is meaningless.

storm5510 · 2017-07-19, 16:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATH

The file without last name is the normal backup file, the first interim backup file should be called .001.

If you take any of the single files and open them with for example 7-zip you can extract them individually as well. Prime95 compresses the files with an algorithm that 7-zip and WinRAR recognize (LZW?), and since the files are called .0xx they automatically concatenate them into one big file which is meaningless.

After I posted last night, I looked at several with a hex editor and found they all began with the same byte sequence:

Code:

A8 30 73 2C 01 00

I loaded WinRAR and deselected all but three of its supported file types. I was trying to remove the assocation from the ".001" file. I didn't know they were .LZW. This is not on the list of supported types in WinRAR.

This is just cosmetic so I will not worry about it. Thanks for the reply!

Madpoo · 2017-07-20, 17:15

Here's a good old fashioned list of strategic double-checks below 60M. Been a while since an updated list and I thought it was due:

Code:

exponent	Bad	Good	Unk	Sus	Solo	Mis	worktodo
48808873	2	1	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=48808873,72,1
51358267	2	0	6	0	6	0	DoubleCheck=51358267,73,1
51358313	2	0	6	0	6	0	DoubleCheck=51358313,73,1
51358409	2	0	6	0	6	0	DoubleCheck=51358409,73,1
51358441	2	0	6	0	6	0	DoubleCheck=51358441,73,1
51358457	2	0	6	0	6	0	DoubleCheck=51358457,73,1
51358579	2	0	6	0	6	0	DoubleCheck=51358579,73,1
41477857	2	1	7	0	7	0	DoubleCheck=41477857,72,1
48495553	2	1	7	0	7	0	DoubleCheck=48495553,72,1
48848893	2	1	7	0	7	0	DoubleCheck=48848893,72,1
49553737	2	1	7	0	7	0	DoubleCheck=49553737,72,1
49710103	2	1	7	0	7	0	DoubleCheck=49710103,73,1
48720713	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=48720713,72,1
47395961	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=47395961,72,1
48863681	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=48863681,72,1
49422199	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=49422199,72,1
49443509	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=49443509,72,1
41511787	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=41511787,72,1
42569867	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=42569867,72,1
51537797	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=51537797,73,1
48830489	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=48830489,72,1
55360093	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=55360093,73,1
51478309	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=51478309,73,1
48280811	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=48280811,72,1
57380027	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=57380027,73,1
49844521	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=49844521,72,1
58243741	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=58243741,73,1
52197337	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=52197337,73,1
53489687	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=53489687,73,1
52340833	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=52340833,73,1
57405221	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=57405221,73,1
48864377	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=48864377,72,1
51999613	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=51999613,73,1
52439381	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=52439381,73,1
51041719	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=51041719,73,1
48667739	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=48667739,72,1
50821439	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=50821439,73,1
50999789	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=50999789,73,1
49865087	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=49865087,73,1
59932349	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=59932349,73,1
57338317	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=57338317,73,1
54778681	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=54778681,73,1
43849217	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=43849217,72,1
59150717	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=59150717,73,1
51480941	1	0	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=51480941,73,1
49111133	1	0	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=49111133,72,1
49111151	1	0	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=49111151,72,1
49120297	1	0	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=49120297,72,1
53354363	1	0	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=53354363,73,1
43527509	1	0	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=43527509,72,1
47658029	1	0	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=47658029,72,1
49220581	1	0	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=49220581,72,1
51641269	1	0	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=51641269,73,1
52793467	1	0	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=52793467,73,1
53337901	1	0	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=53337901,73,1
52876339	1	0	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=52876339,73,1
52885423	1	0	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=52885423,73,1
49517807	1	0	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=49517807,72,1
53789269	1	0	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=53789269,73,1
44443073	1	0	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=44443073,72,1
44646401	1	0	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=44646401,72,1
52236761	1	0	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=52236761,73,1
53954513	1	0	3	0	3	0	DoubleCheck=53954513,73,1
53990221	1	0	3	0	3	0	DoubleCheck=53990221,73,1
56069149	1	0	3	0	3	0	DoubleCheck=56069149,73,1
49072697	1	0	3	0	3	0	DoubleCheck=49072697,72,1
49079971	1	0	3	0	3	0	DoubleCheck=49079971,72,1
41381443	1	0	3	0	3	0	DoubleCheck=41381443,72,1
50174347	1	0	3	0	3	0	DoubleCheck=50174347,73,1
52175789	1	0	3	0	3	0	DoubleCheck=52175789,73,1
59693677	1	0	3	0	3	0	DoubleCheck=59693677,73,1
52201411	1	0	3	0	3	0	DoubleCheck=52201411,73,1
55132873	1	0	3	0	3	0	DoubleCheck=55132873,73,1
59870053	1	0	3	0	3	0	DoubleCheck=59870053,73,1
51636527	1	0	4	0	4	0	DoubleCheck=51636527,73,1
51812597	1	0	4	0	4	0	DoubleCheck=51812597,73,1
52871519	1	0	5	0	5	0	DoubleCheck=52871519,73,1
52885837	1	0	5	0	5	0	DoubleCheck=52885837,73,1
52912757	1	0	5	0	5	0	DoubleCheck=52912757,73,1
52925297	1	0	5	0	5	0	DoubleCheck=52925297,73,1
52952873	1	0	5	0	5	0	DoubleCheck=52952873,73,1
57436123	1	0	5	0	5	0	DoubleCheck=57436123,73,1
57441157	1	0	5	0	5	0	DoubleCheck=57441157,73,1
57966593	1	0	5	0	5	0	DoubleCheck=57966593,73,1
57966613	1	0	5	0	5	0	DoubleCheck=57966613,73,1
57966761	1	0	5	0	5	0	DoubleCheck=57966761,73,1
49906327	1	0	5	0	5	0	DoubleCheck=49906327,72,1
52661309	1	0	5	0	5	0	DoubleCheck=52661309,73,1
57805271	1	0	5	0	5	0	DoubleCheck=57805271,73,1
59133343	1	0	5	0	5	0	DoubleCheck=59133343,73,1
59522479	1	0	5	0	5	0	DoubleCheck=59522479,73,1
44875547	1	0	6	0	6	0	DoubleCheck=44875547,72,1
51544433	1	0	6	0	6	0	DoubleCheck=51544433,73,1
51602981	1	0	6	0	6	0	DoubleCheck=51602981,73,1
53913757	1	0	6	0	6	0	DoubleCheck=53913757,73,1
54563933	1	0	6	0	6	0	DoubleCheck=54563933,73,1
54729737	1	0	6	0	6	0	DoubleCheck=54729737,73,1
51501433	1	0	7	0	7	0	DoubleCheck=51501433,73,1
51729089	1	0	7	0	7	0	DoubleCheck=51729089,73,1
51729091	1	0	7	0	7	0	DoubleCheck=51729091,73,1

storm5510 · 2017-07-20, 18:56

Reserved:

Code:

DoubleCheck=2.....B,43849217,72,1

This should begin in about 13 hours, after the current completes.

2017-07-18, 05:32	#1531
kladner "Kieren" Jul 2011 In My Own Galaxy! 10158₁₀ Posts	Why not use the InterimFiles=xxxxxxxxxxxxx? It is built in and works. Since the files are time-stamped, you can use the time stamps of the errors to find the error-free point in the timeline. EDIT: Yes, the interims do pile up. I just tossed 14GB of the things. Working in the lower 40Ms, each file is nearly 5 MB. Last fiddled with by kladner on 2017-07-18 at 05:41

2017-07-19, 03:59	#1536
storm5510 Random Account Aug 2009 3644₈ Posts	I just discovered that the interim backup files are not independent of each other. They are part of a larger archive. I copied all the parts to a different folder and extracted them. I ended with one large file, 155 MB in size. I am not sure what Prime95 would be able to do with this! Does anyone have any ideas? Attached Thumbnails

2017-07-20, 18:56	#1540
storm5510 Random Account Aug 2009 2²·3·163 Posts	Reserved: Code: DoubleCheck=2.....B,43849217,72,1 This should begin in about 13 hours, after the current completes.

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2017-07-19, 08:14	#1537
ATH Einyen Dec 2003 Denmark 7×11×41 Posts	The file without last name is the normal backup file, the first interim backup file should be called .001. If you take any of the single files and open them with for example 7-zip you can extract them individually as well. Prime95 compresses the files with an algorithm that 7-zip and WinRAR recognize (LZW?), and since the files are called .0xx they automatically concatenate them into one big file which is meaningless.