Engine-assisted game vs Stockfish, move 10 discussion

[gd_barnes]

Originally Posted by LaurV

On my side, I am very happy to see komodo going into negative scores, in Gary's post, this gives me a lot more hope! But I still consider we should not post scores. It kills all the fun. Moomoo didn't post scores in the other game. Imagine seeing at every move how your position deteriorates, grrr,... hahaha

I am running Komodo in the Arena GUI. It gives negative scores when the side being analyzed is not as good. So like Rybka it thinks white has an advantage, similar to the one that you posted. It would remarkable if we had managed to pull out an advantage as black at this point.

In the future in more complex positions with no opening DB to refer to, I may run the program for 2-3 days. But all that running won't get us a win because at best Komodo 10 is barely stronger than Stockfish 7; likely not enough to get more than a draw. There will have to be some human intervention on inadvertently pruned trees by the program in order to have a chance at winning.

[LaurV]

Originally Posted by gd_barnes

So like Rybka it thinks white has an advantage, similar to the one that you posted.

Yuck! You managed to kill all my false hopes...

Totally agree with you (and axn) about the second part, it has to be the human intervention to bring some victory. Let alone the engines from this point, we will most probably end in a draw. We will see, as we are just now getting out of the opening phase, and into the mid-game, no opening books, etc, then we will have to set the board again, in the corner of the room. Arguing against our own engine will help a lot, we assume... Let's see...