Zeroed results on Skylake

[BinaryKhaos]

Hello...

Originally Posted by Mark Rose

Interesting. I had thought the distributions would include updated microcodes in the kernel builds. It seems all my Skylake CPUs are running 0x74.

Unfortunately not. But you can easily generate a "microcode initrd" that you can use in addition to your usual initrd that a correctly configured kernel will use to update your microcode as early as possible. See here for a good explanation with different boot loaders.

Your 0x74 comes from your UEFI firmware, by the way.

Originally Posted by chalsall

Thanks Matthias for sticking with the process, and sharing your experience from which others can learn.

Sure. As an open source guy I am used to it. :-) But nevertheless, I wish I would have been spared that particular experience. And I am really disappointed in Intel for being this intransparent when it comes to all things errata... be it proper explanations or which MC actually fixes the issue for good. Really disappointing, to say the least.

Originally Posted by chalsall

Modern "kit" can be harsh mistresses. Sometimes it takes a while to "make friends". Or at least, come to terms....

At the risk of feeling even more stupid now for asking, but what did you mean by that because I am slightly confused now? ;-)

Originally Posted by XeniaRick

Matthias, FANTASTIC!!! So glad to hear you to found the problem and solution.

Thanks... and it definitely seems like you are now on the right track as well. Glad to hear that. Keeping my fingers crossed for you!

Originally Posted by XeniaRick

After much delay I am back up and running. Turns out the questionable pin was indeed broken.

Ok, that explains the instability. And you are not only one who ran into this particular problem judging from the reports all around the net.

Originally Posted by XeniaRick

I'm just now reading your last message, so it's too late to give your cooler recommendation a try. I'm trying out a water cooler, the Corsair H100i v2.

Well, don't worry. That particular cooling system is really good as well -- and it will keep the temperatures in check very easily. Or put differently: The D15s is one of the best you can get if you go for air cooling... and based on tests I read, the H100i is top-notch in the water cooling market. So... good choice. :)

One more word of advice: I know you got DDR4-3200 rated memory but don't aim for it. Chances are very high you will need to manually adjust at least VCCSA and VCCIO. If your system is stable at stock, aim for DDR4-3000 which should basically just work out of the box if your firmware has proper "support" for it (as-in: voltages based on empirical value). Also note, since this is an overclock, temperatures will slightly increase as mentioned earlier. But with your new cooling system that will definitely not be a problem.

Good luck to you!

So long,
Matthias

[Mark Rose]

Originally Posted by BinaryKhaos

One more word of advice: I know you got DDR4-3200 rated memory but don't aim for it. Chances are very high you will need to manually adjust at least VCCSA and VCCIO. If your system is stable at stock, aim for DDR4-3000 which should basically just work out of the box if your firmware has proper "support" for it (as-in: voltages based on empirical value).

So if I were building a 6700K system, I should buy DDR4-3200 and run it at 3000?

[chalsall]

Originally Posted by BinaryKhaos

At the risk of feeling even more stupid now for asking, but what did you mean by that because I am slightly confused now? ;-)

Sorry. I was channelling a good friend of mine who used to say "I'm making friends with the hardware" (read: running many experiments).

Hardware often doesn't do what the software people want or expect.

Just as an aside, my friend had friends who had electronics near atomic explosions something like 50 years ago. "Coming up the wire was the signal, then shortly after there was the EMP pulse, and then following closely was the fireball.

And this was the declassified stuff he could talk to me about. I'm not exaggerating.

[kladner]

I will take a chance that BinaryKhaos was asking about the word "kit." This is a Britishism that in the US might be termed "gear," or just "hardware."

[Mark Rose]

Originally Posted by kladner

I will take a chance that BinaryKhaos was asking about the word "kit." This is a Britishism that in the US might be termed "gear," or just "hardware."

The word is getting some adoption this side of the pond. I don't think it's a Britishism though, as I've heard many from South Africa, Australia, and New Zealand use it, too. I think YouTube is mixing all the words around the world.

[kladner]

Originally Posted by Mark Rose

The word is getting some adoption this side of the pond. I don't think it's a Britishism though, as I've heard many from South Africa, Australia, and New Zealand use it, too. I think YouTube is mixing all the words around the world.

What you say about YouTube is true. In the same way, radio and then television greatly diminished regional differences, just in the States. I have discs of the original Carter Family, from the '20s, in which they say the name of their home state as "VirGinyay." I doubt that sort of pronunciation survived the advent of radio, and the Grand Old Opry. I f you are up to it, listen to the second clip, and notice the pronunciation of words like "their" and "where," among others.


Sorry for going all davieddy on you.
However, all the instances you mention have British origins, at least in colonial terms. The same is true of Bimshire and chalsall (from Canada,) who used the term in the first place, in this thread.

[Mark Rose]

Originally Posted by kladner

What you say about YouTube is true. In the same way, radio and then television greatly diminished regional differences, just in the States. I have discs of the original Carter Family, from the '20s, in which they say the name of their home state as "VirGinyay." I doubt that sort of pronunciation survived the advent of radio, and the Grand Old Opry. I f you are up to it, listen to the second clip, and notice the pronunciation of words like "their" and "where," among others.

She's singing in an accent I'm not familiar with, but it's understandable. I would have had trouble understanding it as a kid, before YouTube and the internet, but I've heard enough southern accents now that it's no big deal. I grew up not far from Alaska, for what it's worth.

Sorry for going all davieddy on you.
However, all the instances you mention have British origins, at least in colonial terms. The same is true of Bimshire and chalsall (from Canada,) who used the term in the first place, in this thread.

Don't forget the original 13 States were British colonies, too. The Canadian legal system is more closely tied to the UK than the US, but culturally it's been the other way around for at least the last few decades.

At least we're not all like, adopting Valley Girl accent these days, since like, it's not just Hollywood movies now.

[kladner]

The Carters were from waaay back in the hills of old VirGinyay. I think of this accent as a possible example of really archaic English being preserved in the back country, especially in places like Appalachia.

You are right about the origin of the States né the Colonies. I should acknowledge that my contention was based only on personal experience. I first heard "kit" in a British setting, as in "soccer kit." Your point is well taken.