You Wish!

[ewmayer]

Originally Posted by only_human

Wishes need to be carefully expressed. Here is a cautionary tale:
The Sorcerer's Apprentice

Were Goethe still alive around middle of the 20th century, he would have surely been sued by Disney for violating the future copyright on their various pop-media incarnations of the tale. As it is, I'm sure the Goethe estate was and is sharing in the profits Disney made thereby - oh, wait...

[I'm having a hard time deciding which is eviller - Disney or Google. Both bastions of 'free capitalistic enterprise' as idolized by some people, no doubt.]

[only_human]

Originally Posted by ewmayer

Were Goethe still alive around middle of the 20th century, he would have surely been sued by Disney for violating the future copyright on their various pop-media incarnations of the tale. As it is, I'm sure the Goethe estate was and is sharing in the profits Disney made thereby - oh, wait...

[I'm having a hard time deciding which is eviller - Disney or Google. Both bastions of 'free capitalistic enterprise' as idolized by some people, no doubt.]

I'm going to go with Disney being more evil at the moment but with technological change and Google's recent activism on patents, I may be changing my mind.
50 Disney Movies Based On The Public Domain

One of the Greatest Thefts in History?:

While Disney took and reused from the public domain, none of the works created by Disney, including derivative works based upon public domain works, has entered the public domain for others to build upon. If current policy is extended – then they never will. The content industry has argued that their copyright is their natural right property, something that the Founders never agreed with and our Constitution makes clear is not the case (See Cardozo Law Review article addressing topic).

Under the content industry’s logic they have argued that reusing others work without paying them is always stealing and they have pushed for more and more restrictions upon doctrines like fair use. One of the content industries’ most ardent supporters in Congress, Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) has even directly ridiculed the concept of fair use as being theft by comparing it to being “a little bit pregnant,” arguing “how do you go snip just a little bit of what somebody has created. . . we have to begin to look at this issue. . . not as just snippets but we have to look at it as theft.” The first Mickey Mouse film, “SteamBoat Willie,” was itself a parody of a Buster Keaton film “Steamboat Bill Jr.” (parody being a form of fair use).

If in the vernacular of the content industry, taking other people’s work without paying for it is always stealing, then the Disney Corporation is responsible for one of the greatest thefts in world history.

[Nick]

If Goethe were alive today, the sorcerer's apprentice would have been about selling more and more mortgages.

[davar55]

In the words of the Ionians (regarding disney), "What's your beef?"

To o.h.: I wish to have explained, in short words and sentences and few paragraphs,
a brief summary of what you have against the not-yet-existing-economic-system of
perfect capitalism. For the purpose of comprehension and perhaps re-discussion,
in the other thread.

[only_human]

Originally Posted by davar55

In the words of the Ionians (regarding disney), "What's your beef?"

To o.h.: I wish to have explained, in short words and sentences and few paragraphs,
a brief summary of what you have against the not-yet-existing-economic-system of
perfect capitalism. For the purpose of comprehension and perhaps re-discussion,
in the other thread.

I have nothing against the not-yet-existing-economic-system of perfect capitalism.

I don't know what perfect capitalism is though.

The futurist Michio Kaku thinks he knows what perfect capitalism is, and people seem to like to listen to him flapping his lips. It's nice to dream about things working well.
Embrace ‘perfect capitalism’ or face disaster, physicist predicts

Some people think this perfect capitalism already exists.
No Thomas Frank, Capitalism Is Perfect

Perhaps my beef is that meat is ending up in vegetarian hot dogs.
Report: 10% of vegetarian hot dogs contain meat

If people just understood the rules and followed them correctly, that wouldn't happen right?

[LaurV]

Originally Posted by only_human

Perhaps my beef is that meat is ending up in vegetarian hot dogs.
Report: 10% of vegetarian hot dogs contain meat

Wanted to click on that, found out the link is wrong, additional "/p" at the end is... not necessary.
Fixed link in the browser, clicked refresh...
No luck! CNN player (via cdn.turner.com) is trying to store 10kb of cookies on our hdd.
We hate sites doing this.
Click "deny" two three times, the popup continues to come back until you click "allow".
Click red X.
Blacklisted.
Sorry.

[retina]

Originally Posted by LaurV

Wanted to click on that, found out the link is wrong, additional "/p" at the end is... not necessary.
Fixed link in the browser, clicked refresh...
No luck! CNN player (via cdn.turner.com) is trying to store 10kb of cookies on our hdd.
We hate sites doing this.
Click "deny" two three times, the popup continues to come back until you click "allow".
Click red X.
Blacklisted.
Sorry.

Get a better browser, or change your settings, or something. I just set my cookies to deny by default, and then selectively add exceptions for sites like this one to retain login details. Easy.

[only_human]

Seriously guys just search meat and vegetarian; topical news is not usually in just one place. Here is another link:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...tain-meat.html

Clear Food Labs, a food analytics start-up found that 10% of vegetarian hot dog products contain meat.

More worryingly - unless you are a hardcore vegetarian who would rather eat people than pigs - the company found human DNA in 2% of its hot dog samples, and in two-thirds of the vegetarian samples.

[retina]

Originally Posted by only_human

You can also find human DNA on door handles. But that doesn't mean the door handles are made of human meat.

All this bovine excrement news it just time wasting. If you believed it all then you would starve to death.

[only_human]

Originally Posted by retina

You can also find human DNA on door handles. But that doesn't mean the door handles are made of human meat.

All this bovine excrement news it just time wasting. If you believed it all then you would starve to death.

but I wasn't trying make a point about human DNA. My remark was more aimed at capitalism not delivering a vegetarian hotdog when you want one despite that being what you paid for.

[retina]

Originally Posted by only_human

but I wasn't trying make a point about human DNA. My remark was more aimed at capitalism not delivering a vegetarian hotdog when you want one despite that being what you paid for.

My point is how can you believe what they claim when they use the "human DNA" thing to try and show something amiss? It suggests they use the same flawed reasoning to "show" there is pig/horse/cat/whatever meat in whatever they want to discredit at the time.