Move 29 - Page 2

Brian-E · 2015-10-12, 11:50

[QUOTE=davar55;412497]But will they make a mistake? I rate their play this game as high, no clear errors.
Even so, I do not prefer Qf6 or Qg7 over Qh6, but we're in trouble anyway.[/QUOTE]
Playing losing positions is something we all have to do. Doing our best to salvage a draw from these is just as important as converting a won position from the point of view of maximising our performance results. And our position is not hopeless. The ending with opposite coloured bishops gives drawing chances if we can pick up their b2 pawn and create threats with our c pawn which would then be passed.

Since you don't prefer any other move over 29...Qh6, I guess we have agreement now.

davar55 · 2015-10-13, 13:28

If they 30. Qh3, we have no choice but to exchange queens. We could then
pick off Rxb7 or Bxb2. Which is our best chance for your suggested
endgame chances for a draw?

Brian-E · 2015-10-13, 23:55

[QUOTE=davar55;412567]If they 30. Qh3, we have no choice but to exchange queens. We could then
pick off Rxb7 or Bxb2. Which is our best chance for your suggested
endgame chances for a draw?[/QUOTE]
30.Qh3 Qxh3 31.Bxh3 Rxb6 followed by 32...Rxb2 gives us excellent drawing chances, I think, because they will have to either exchange rooks to a pure opposite bishop ending with only one extra pawn, or they must play the very passive Rf1 whereupon we march our c pawn down the board.

I suspect they can do better than 30.Qh3.

WMHalsdorf · 2015-10-14, 14:04

[QUOTE=Brian-E;412622]30.Qh3 Qxh3 31.Bxh3 Rxb6 followed by 32...Rxb2 gives us excellent drawing chances, I think, because they will have to either exchange rooks to a pure opposite bishop ending with only one extra pawn, or they must play the very passive Rf1 whereupon we march our c pawn down the board.

I suspect they can do better than 30.Qh3.[/QUOTE]
30.Qa6 offers them the best chance to prevent us from getting a draw.

davar55 · 2015-10-14, 14:06

[QUOTE=Brian-E;412622]30.Qh3 Qxh3 31.Bxh3 Rxb6 followed by 32...Rxb2 gives us excellent drawing chances, I think, because they will have to either exchange rooks to a pure opposite bishop ending with only one extra pawn, or they must play the very passive Rf1 whereupon we march our c pawn down the board.
I suspect they can do better than 30.Qh3.[/QUOTE]

If they play 30. Ra6, can we respond 30. .. Qc1+, or does that result in 31. Qf1 and then what?

davar55 · 2015-10-14, 14:08

[QUOTE=WMHalsdorf;412648]30.Qa6 offers them the best chance to prevent us from getting a draw.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I think so, if 30. Ra6 doesn't work for them.

2015-10-13, 13:28	#13
davar55 May 2004 New York City 1000010001011₂ Posts	Move 30 If they 30. Qh3, we have no choice but to exchange queens. We could then pick off Rxb7 or Bxb2. Which is our best chance for your suggested endgame chances for a draw?

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2015-10-12, 11:50	#12
Brian-E "Brian" Jul 2007 The Netherlands 3278₁₀ Posts	[QUOTE=davar55;412497]But will they make a mistake? I rate their play this game as high, no clear errors. Even so, I do not prefer Qf6 or Qg7 over Qh6, but we're in trouble anyway.[/QUOTE] Playing losing positions is something we all have to do. Doing our best to salvage a draw from these is just as important as converting a won position from the point of view of maximising our performance results. And our position is not hopeless. The ending with opposite coloured bishops gives drawing chances if we can pick up their b2 pawn and create threats with our c pawn which would then be passed. Since you don't prefer any other move over 29...Qh6, I guess we have agreement now.

2015-10-13, 23:55	#14
Brian-E "Brian" Jul 2007 The Netherlands 2·11·149 Posts	[QUOTE=davar55;412567]If they 30. Qh3, we have no choice but to exchange queens. We could then pick off Rxb7 or Bxb2. Which is our best chance for your suggested endgame chances for a draw?[/QUOTE] 30.Qh3 Qxh3 31.Bxh3 Rxb6 followed by 32...Rxb2 gives us excellent drawing chances, I think, because they will have to either exchange rooks to a pure opposite bishop ending with only one extra pawn, or they must play the very passive Rf1 whereupon we march our c pawn down the board. I suspect they can do better than 30.Qh3.

2015-10-14, 14:04	#15
WMHalsdorf Feb 2005 Bristol, CT 3³×19 Posts	[QUOTE=Brian-E;412622]30.Qh3 Qxh3 31.Bxh3 Rxb6 followed by 32...Rxb2 gives us excellent drawing chances, I think, because they will have to either exchange rooks to a pure opposite bishop ending with only one extra pawn, or they must play the very passive Rf1 whereupon we march our c pawn down the board. I suspect they can do better than 30.Qh3.[/QUOTE] 30.Qa6 offers them the best chance to prevent us from getting a draw.

2015-10-14, 14:06	#16
davar55 May 2004 New York City 5×7×11² Posts	[QUOTE=Brian-E;412622]30.Qh3 Qxh3 31.Bxh3 Rxb6 followed by 32...Rxb2 gives us excellent drawing chances, I think, because they will have to either exchange rooks to a pure opposite bishop ending with only one extra pawn, or they must play the very passive Rf1 whereupon we march our c pawn down the board. I suspect they can do better than 30.Qh3.[/QUOTE] If they play 30. Ra6, can we respond 30. .. Qc1+, or does that result in 31. Qf1 and then what?

2015-10-14, 14:08	#17
davar55 May 2004 New York City 5·7·11² Posts	[QUOTE=WMHalsdorf;412648]30.Qa6 offers them the best chance to prevent us from getting a draw.[/QUOTE] Yes, I think so, if 30. Ra6 doesn't work for them.