So does skylake-nonXeon actually get us anything?

[Ken_g6]

Skylake might get us...smoldering piles of slag.

OK, that's an exaggeration, but Prime95 seems to have killed this one. But it was overclocked and overvolted. So maybe we shouldn't do that with Skylake?

[kladner]

Originally Posted by Ken_g6

Skylake might get us...smoldering piles of slag.

OK, that's an exaggeration, but Prime95 seems to have killed this one. But it was overclocked and overvolted. So maybe we shouldn't do that with Skylake?

Last comment to the thread linked above when I looked:

I wouldn't use prime95 on any of my newer cpus... thats just asking for it.

People don't understand what it means to really load a CPU. Nor do they understand the risks of pushing limits.

[LaurV]

Well, I won't make an account there just to start the "brood war", but there are always some idiots there in the wild who kill the messenger when the delivered news are not good.

They should only read the "stress.txt" file that come with P95 distribution, i.e. the last Q&A:

Originally Posted by stress.txt

Q) A forum member said "Don't bother with prime95, it always pukes on me,
and my system is stable!. What do you make of that?"

or

"We had a server at work that ran for 2 MONTHS straight, without a reboot
I installed Prime95 on it and ran it - a couple minutes later I get an error.
You are going to tell me that the server wasn't stable?"

A) These users obviously do not subscribe to the 100% rock solid
school of thought. THEIR MACHINES DO HAVE HARDWARE PROBLEMS.
But since they are not presently running any programs that reveal
the hardware problem, the machines are quite stable. As long as
these machines never run a program that uncovers the hardware problem,
then the machines will continue to be stable.

[Madpoo]

Originally Posted by LaurV

...These users obviously do not subscribe to the 100% rock solid
school of thought. THEIR MACHINES DO HAVE HARDWARE PROBLEMS.
But since they are not presently running any programs that reveal
the hardware problem, the machines are quite stable. As long as
these machines never run a program that uncovers the hardware problem,
then the machines will continue to be stable....

Well, I know for a fact that this logic is sound. Because if I don't look under the bed, the boogeyman isn't really there. But, man... I just know if I look, he'll be there.

[tha]

Well, my current system is dual core Conroe system from 2006. When I bought the parts and assembled the system, it was all state of the art. I can't say that I need a new system, but I sold some of my blue chips a month ago and bought them back this week at a 23% lower price. They've gone up 12% since, so I decided to order some new parts.

I bought a 6700K processor priced at €400,- and 16 Gb of 3200 GHz DDR4 priced at €180,-. And an Asus top of the line motherboard with everything on it for €300,-. Not a cost efficient system, but one that I hope will last as long as my Conroe system and will be as pleasant to work with. Now I need to find some time to assemble it. I will post the mprime results when I have it. I am not going to overclock it, just run the memory at the highest XMP setting.

[ATH]

Originally Posted by Madpoo

Well, I know for a fact that this logic is sound. Because if I don't look under the bed, the boogeyman isn't really there. But, man... I just know if I look, he'll be there.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BOOGEYMAN!

[ldesnogu]

Originally Posted by ldesnogu

It seems to be 32GB: http://ark.intel.com/products/88195/...up-to-4_20-GHz

Intel fixed the page, it's now saying 64GB.

[nucleon]

I'm really disappointed over last few cycles of cpus. And generally I'm an intel fan.

I get the impression, even if AVX512 was available in these cpus, it would essentially be no use as ram wouldn't be able to keep up with it.

I've seen +30% memory benchmarks on previous gens, but we already had mem starvation on four cores in use.

It'll be interesting on skylake with DDR4, how 4 cores loaded vs 3 cores, and see memory starvation.

I'm curious to see when we get cpus with more advanced memory than DDRx incarnations.

I've seen this link

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/20...nt-amd-zen-cpu

To me it looks like someones wish list, but hey, if it happens - that will be awesome. (TLDR: Link has AMD cpu with HBM plans)

-- Craig

[Mark Rose]

I always wondered how the i7-5775C would perform with the 128 MB of cache. It's a shame there's no equivalent Skylake: socketed with huge eDRAM.

[ATH]

Any idea when the Skylake Xeon with the new instruction is supposed to be available?

[Madpoo]

Originally Posted by ATH

Any idea when the Skylake Xeon with the new instruction is supposed to be available?

I was thinking it was due sometime early in 2016, but I don't remember where I read that.

I've got my fingers crossed it'll be out and in some shipping products by the time I get my hardware budget around then so I can (hopefully) get one of those instead, but it probably wouldn't work out on the timing. Then again, maybe... all a matter of whether the Proliant Gen9's can accept one of those or not. I forget if they were supposed to share the same socket as the Xeon E5 v3's.