windows 10 , transit or not?

[kladner]

We are back from the great rescue mission. It was relatively painless. We made sure his data was updated on his flash drive. We followed the instructions I found online to the rollback function. We made sure that he does not have a password on Windows. We pushed the button. It took 10 or 15 minutes, max. Rechecking afterward found all his stuff in place, and his applications still working.

[LaurV]

Well, I would happily switch to linux anytime, from the pure reason of learning something more, if from no other reasons, but can anyone tell me which application I can use to substitute Proteus, Altium (Protel), AutoCad, SolidWorks, etc? (we can give a list with about 50 items). Unfortunately, Linux for design, is and it will be dead for the next 20-30 years. I am very satisfied, however, of using kali linux, that is what linux seems to be made for... hehe. No, no, please do not reply, it was a rhetoric question, and I know I am opening a can of worms here...

[Dubslow]

Originally Posted by chalsall

Linux is not for the faint of heart, nor the hairless of chest.

I personally use it for all my systems, but I don't recommend it for those around me.

That may be true of some distros, but there are plenty that are non-geek/technologically illiterate/old people/etc friendly.

Originally Posted by ewmayer

Piling on:

A Traffic Analysis of Windows 10 root@localghost:~# (Lauren Weinstein).

Reader comment: “As Weinstein notes, if this is correct Windows 10 is a security disaster. ‘ . this is an OS-level keylogger, all the data you’re trying to transmit securely is now sitting on some MS server. This includes passwords and encrypted chats. This also includes the on-screen keyboard, so there is no way to authenticate to a website without MS also getting your password.’ Audio and video input is also captured and sent to MS servers.” Weinstein stressed that, “the item was passed along to me by an A-class correspondent, but the underlying source is significantly less well graded.”

That is what I was referring to earlier. If true, Microsoft has literally all of one's personal details, including e.g. bank log in details. They could theoretically just straight up take all their customers' money straight out of their accounts (at least any who log in to their bank on a Windows 10 computer).

[S485122]

Originally Posted by Dubslow

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If true, Microsoft has literally all of one's personal details, including e.g. bank log in details. They could theoretically just straight up take all their customers' money straight out of their accounts (at least any who log in to their bank on a Windows 10 computer).

In Belgium one has to use a card-reader called "digipass"* to generate a session password based on a challenge by the bank and the users chip-card and associated pin code. The "digipass" is not a connected device. Knowing the users login at the bank and one of his responses to the challenge would not help much. Quite a few E-commerce sites credit card payment validation also use this authentication scheme. Of course this is not absolute security, being based for one thing on security by obfuscation, but at least it is a security device that is not connected on the web.

Jacob

[LaurV]

Adding to it: the device has a serial number which is recorded by the bank when they give it to you (i.e. you open an account with them and opt for internet banking service). This serial number, your account number, and the pin you use, are part of the process when generating those "passwords", which in turn are hashed and used for the encryption keys. There is no way that a guy knowing your account, your login name, even your pin, could generate the password without having the device on hand. Beside of course, years of numbers crunching.

But sleep well, in reality money are not stolen in this way. People who want to steal your money (banks and governments included) will use a wrench...

[Nick]

The device itself is probably just a commodity item, the same for everyone, with all personalized data on the tamper-resistant chip in the bank card.

[snme2pm1]

Originally Posted by LaurV

Adding to it: the device has a serial number which is recorded by the bank when they give it to you (i.e. you open an account with them and opt for internet banking service). This serial number, your account number, and the pin you use, are part of the process when generating those "passwords", which in turn are hashed and used for the encryption keys. There is no way that a guy knowing your account, your login name, even your pin, could generate the password without having the device on hand. Beside of course, years of numbers crunching.

But sleep well, in reality money are not stolen in this way. People who want to steal your money (banks and governments included) will use a wrench...

There is no way

How sure are you about that.
The Germans used an Enigma device and practice of deployment of encoding systems which they thought could not be compromised.
They were wrong.
But the question would go to the worthiness of effort for any particular target.

[snme2pm1]

p.s. https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&r...,d.dGY&cad=rja

[chalsall]

Originally Posted by LaurV

Well, I would happily switch to linux anytime, from the pure reason of learning something more, if from no other reasons, but can anyone tell me which application I can use to substitute Proteus, Altium (Protel), AutoCad, SolidWorks, etc? (we can give a list with about 50 items). Unfortunately, Linux for design, is and it will be dead for the next 20-30 years.

Completely agree.

My girlfriend is an architect. While all her back-end systems are Linux, all her workstations are Windows simply because AutoCAD is not available on Linux (why this is is an interesting question).

Edit: One option for those who need to use Windows software is to run a virtual machine. Oracle's VirtualBox is quite versatile. And, sniffing the traffic from the software within the VMs can be quite interesting and informative....

[chalsall]

Originally Posted by Dubslow

That may be true of some distros, but there are plenty that are non-geek/technologically illiterate/old people/etc friendly.

Agreed.

Ubuntu, for example, seems to be focusing on the non-technical user.

But, to be perfectly honest, I don't recommend Linux to those around me for selfish reasons: I don't want to become the support person.

On the other hand, a few years ago a friend of mine came to me and said he was fed up with Micro$oft. I suggested he try Ubuntu with the condition that I would not assist beyond the occasional question. It took him a bit of time, but he successfully liberated himself.

[pepi37]

Did you hear about term "free will"
I love people that jumps to newest, hottest product of MS and then complain about :security hole, key logger thing and so on so on.
Before you tell or write one word about Win 10, ask yourself: does anybody forced me(you) to immediately jump to Win 10?
Your Win 7 is was good until few days ago, and then: boom: miracle: Win 10 is out, lets go, jump it download it first in the world.
As I know, period for upgrade is ONE YEAR, not one month or ten days.. Where you hurry?
And software thing is another part of same story: now nothing work, I must download patch, or new version , and.....
Read it again: is anybody by force or any other way forced any of you to upgrade to Win 10?
I think answer is no :)