GPU to 72 status...

[James Heinrich]

Electricity prices have deceptively low numbers when looking at the utility bill here, but then there's a multitude of fees and surcharges that bring it up. Speaking in Eurocents for ease of comparison, the advertised off-peak rate is as low as about €0.05/kWh, but once you include delivery and debt reduction and servicewhatevertheycallit charges, the average here becomes about €0.125/kWh (incl 13% VAT), which globally isn't bad. Especially when you'd be burning that power anyway to heat the room, may as well heat it with a GPU

[kladner]

Last I looked at my bill, a cursory glance might have given the impression of a rate of US $0.06/kWh. A closer look showed 2 lines which had value tied to usage, as opposed to the various fixed surcharges. This brought the /kWh part of the bill to something over 12 cents per.

[LaurV]

We were never so clever to understand how the Thai tariffs works related to the electricity, and we never understood anything on the invoice/bill except few numbers, like how many kWh we spent, and how much money we paid. Usually we divide them, but it seems that we are stupid with division, because every month we get a different cost per kWh, always between 13 and 20 US cents, mostly around 16. We believe that the tariffs are differentiated by day/night, summer/winter, rain/sunny (?!?), being enterprise/company or private person, being Thai or farang. No joke about the last one, in Thailand the practice is quite common, the government encourage the locals to practice differentiate prices for foreigners (public parks, cinema, different shops, etc, have prices for tourists which are from double to 20 times higher than for local people - and because we are pale faces, we can't hide it , hehe. We use to have a special card from the revenue department saying that "this farang works here and pays its taxes as local people", which goes together with the passport helping us to pay 20 baht to visit some park/temple/etc, like local people, instead of 400 baht, like tourists).

[VictordeHolland]

Originally Posted by lycorn

Just out of curiosity, how expensive?

In Portugal I pay 20.18c / Kwh (day rate) and 10.7c / Kwh (night rate). Prices include 23% VAT.

1-10.000KWh :
07:00-21:00 (high tarif)
7.223c + 11.65c (energytax) + 0.11c (green energytax something) + 3.986c (21% VAT)= 22.97c / KWh

21:00-07:00 (low tarif)
5.603c + 11.65c (energytax) + 0.11c (green energytax something) + 3.646 (21% VAT)= 21.01c / KWh

Above 10.000KWh:
Energytax reduced to 4.24c and the green energy tax is a bit higher 0.14c .

So, its mostly tax, not the energy itself that makes it so expensive.

[chalsall]

Originally Posted by VictordeHolland

So, its mostly tax, not the energy itself that makes it so expensive.

Here in Barbados, the cost of electricity is a little scary...

For "Domestic service", there is an automatic $10 monthly "Customer Charge" for most consumers. $6 if you use less than 150 kWh (but who does?), and $14 if you use over 500 kWh.

Then:
First 150 kWh, the rate is $0.150 per kWh.
Next 350 kWh, the rate is $0.176 per kWh.
Next 1000 kWh, the rate is $0.200 per kWh.
Next 1500 kWh, the rate is $0.224 per kWh.

That might appear inexpensive, but there is then the "Fuel Adjustment Clause" (FAC) charge, which is the cost "The Company" paid for the fuel burnt to generate the power... (Yeah, we're 13.2 degrees above the equator, and yet we still mostly import and burn long-dead creatures for our power rather than use sunlight or wind.)

Last month the FAC charge was $0.392921 per kWh, regardless of the consumption range. As in, the FAC charge is the same for every kWh consumed.

All of the above prices are in Barbados dollars, and then subjected to a 17.5% VAT. To convert Barbados dollars to US of A dollars (to which we are "tied"), divide by 1.98.

So, for my very modest home which consumed 392 kWh's last month, the bill was $269 Barbados, or $136 USD.

Or... Approximately $0.347 USD per kWh....

[lycorn]

Well the prices I posted for Portugal are in eurocents (~1.37 x US dollar cents), and are just for the energy actually consumed. You also have to pay an overhead of some 10-11€ a month for infrastructure. The cost of the Kwh is independent of the quantity you use. We have that system for water, but not for electricity.

@blip: the price you posted is really scary, as VAT is not included! Where in Europe are you posting from?

[bayanne]

Last month in UK charge was equivalent to 23.184 us cents/kWh plus 5% VAT ...

[Axelsson]

Living in Sweden with a large part hydroelectric power and nuclear power gives me a price of 43 öre/kWh, circa 4.5 euro cent or 6,15 Us cent.
I also have to pay a fix price for my connection to the power grid, at my current consumption that is circa 10% more.

Now I understand you guys complaining of the high cost of running GPU:s

[VictordeHolland]

I forgot to convert it to US Dollars, 0.2297 euro/KWh is approximately 0.31 US dollars/KWh.
Still a bit cheaper than Barbados and our electricity gets cheaper (in euro/KWh) if you use more, while yours gets more expensive :/ .

Our "green" electricity is not that green at all, the Netherlands still has 5 or 6 power plants that burn coal! The rest is mostly gas powered and 1 is nuclear I believe. And all those gigantic wind turbines only provide 5% of our power needs. Luckily we still have our Heineken beer and can smoke pot legally.

Nice, I've an avatar, don't know who put it there, but thanks, I like it!

[Chuck]

Last month 12.45¢/kWh bottom line — just the total bill divided by usage. There are no tiered charges from my electric cooperative. The water company began using that pricing structure some time back.

[James Heinrich]

Somewhat related to all this: On my mfaktc performance chart the JVR / JVR2 columns factor in electricity usage, and I've set the value of that at $0.25/kWh. Is that a reasonable average?