GTX580 replacement - Page 2

Stef42 · 2014-04-17, 15:35

Thank you all, I'm afraid I implied something I did not ment.
I have a N580 Lightning, which has always been quite loud.
I started with the DCII 570, which was really nice.
Considering a swap, I have my eyes on a DCII 580, €125,- (Europe)
I was wondering if upgrading would be a better option, which seeing most of the answers is not worth it.
The only game I play is World of Tanks, which is no problem for the 580.

Batalov · 2014-04-17, 15:47

My 570s were also getting old and loud.

Beware that if your will warranty them, there's a good chance that the shop will replace them with other, subpar models (without even asking you; they think that this is an upgrade - "a new shiny 650Ti for the old 570". Nuts!) Anyway, there is no magic bullet, just tedious negotiations with the shop. And it seems that there are no magically good providers. Both EVGA and Gigabyte cards got sick and tired of this life (of 24x7 100% load ;-) and died.

EVGA did replace my dead one with a one-fan model 570 (after an initial silent stint with a 650Ti swapperoo).
Gigabyte (the other card) died four times and was "repaired" each time. Finally they replaced it with a 570OC, but when its fans also started rattling, and I (knowing from the past that they will try to switch) called them, they said that they have no 5xx series, so I didn't RMA. I got fans from AliExpress, that's the only place the compatible fans are. Decent replacement (~ two week wait for the delivery); I got extras, so I am prepared for the next bout of rattling in a year. (When the ball bearing goes, then no amount of oil will help.)

kracker · 2014-04-17, 15:52

650 ti, seriously? That is a ripoff.
http://anandtech.com/bench/product/831?vs=781

Batalov · 2014-04-17, 16:52

Yep. I was rather mad that they tried to pull a fast one on me.
(They apologized, though, when I called.)

Something tells me that this is what works for them. Maybe with 50 or 75% probability? that's good enough, isn't it? Reminds me of an old Poruchik Rzhevsky anecdote (the second one in this NSFW, yet rather academic treatise on humor).

TheMawn · 2014-04-17, 22:44

650 Ti is a ripoff but I've heard of a LOT of people who would trade their 570 for a 660 Ti any day of the week, which is funny when we think about it.

kracker · 2014-04-17, 22:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMawn

650 Ti is a ripoff but I've heard of a LOT of people who would trade their 570 for a 660 Ti any day of the week, which is funny when we think about it.

That's for us, who compute

Gordon · 2014-04-17, 23:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stef42

Well, the 580 runs about 440Ghz-days. I would like to hit the number or higher. My computer is not running 24/7.

I have 2 x 660's in now. A Palit Geforce that is overclocked by 50Mhz and turns in 180 days/day @ 72 degrees..

.. and a Gigabyte Windforce x2, over clocked by 100Mhz, turns in around 188 days/day only clocks in at 58 degrees.

Production - ~370 days/day, or about 25x the I7-4770...

VictordeHolland · 2014-04-20, 16:22

Well if you still have the 280X, I would keep it! You keep money in your pocket, that you can use to pay the electricity bill. Running it at 1000 MHz will yield more or less the same Trail Factoring GHzdays performance as a not OCed GTX580. Since you are not running 24/7, running it a bit longer a day will get you a better or the same result.

Greetings from the Netherlands ;),
Victor

henryzz · 2014-04-22, 14:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by henryzz

Fans going noisy might mean they just need a dust clearout. Mine has been noisy for a while but I have avoided messing with it as I am currently writing my dissertation on that pc. It refused to boot this morning complaining of cpu fan trouble. I cleaned it out and now it is back to its old self. A little bit of oil on the motor might go a long way as well(just check what the best type of oil is first).

A couple of days later I noticed that the POST test was complaining about the fan again. I am pretty certain that is because it wasn't getting upto speed fast enough. While it was pretty much working I had lost faith in it. I replaced the fan of my Freezer 7 Pro with the fan of a Freezer 13 pro quiet(it fit on the old heatsink) and now it is the case fans I can hear.

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2014-04-17, 15:35	#12
Stef42 Feb 2012 the Netherlands 2·29 Posts	Thank you all, I'm afraid I implied something I did not ment. I have a N580 Lightning, which has always been quite loud. I started with the DCII 570, which was really nice. Considering a swap, I have my eyes on a DCII 580, €125,- (Europe) I was wondering if upgrading would be a better option, which seeing most of the answers is not worth it. The only game I play is World of Tanks, which is no problem for the 580.

2014-04-17, 15:47	#13
Batalov "Serge" Mar 2008 Phi(4,2^7658614+1)/2 2·47·101 Posts	My 570s were also getting old and loud. Beware that if your will warranty them, there's a good chance that the shop will replace them with other, subpar models (without even asking you; they think that this is an upgrade - "a new shiny 650Ti for the old 570". Nuts!) Anyway, there is no magic bullet, just tedious negotiations with the shop. And it seems that there are no magically good providers. Both EVGA and Gigabyte cards got sick and tired of this life (of 24x7 100% load ;-) and died. EVGA did replace my dead one with a one-fan model 570 (after an initial silent stint with a 650Ti swapperoo). Gigabyte (the other card) died four times and was "repaired" each time. Finally they replaced it with a 570OC, but when its fans also started rattling, and I (knowing from the past that they will try to switch) called them, they said that they have no 5xx series, so I didn't RMA. I got fans from AliExpress, that's the only place the compatible fans are. Decent replacement (~ two week wait for the delivery); I got extras, so I am prepared for the next bout of rattling in a year. (When the ball bearing goes, then no amount of oil will help.)

2014-04-17, 15:52	#14
kracker "Mr. Meeseeks" Jan 2012 California, USA 878₁₆ Posts	650 ti, seriously? That is a ripoff. http://anandtech.com/bench/product/831?vs=781

2014-04-17, 16:52	#15
Batalov "Serge" Mar 2008 Phi(4,2^7658614+1)/2 2×47×101 Posts	Yep. I was rather mad that they tried to pull a fast one on me. (They apologized, though, when I called.) Something tells me that this is what works for them. Maybe with 50 or 75% probability? that's good enough, isn't it? Reminds me of an old Poruchik Rzhevsky anecdote (the second one in this NSFW, yet rather academic treatise on humor).

2014-04-17, 22:44	#16
TheMawn May 2013 East. Always East. 11·157 Posts	650 Ti is a ripoff but I've heard of a LOT of people who would trade their 570 for a 660 Ti any day of the week, which is funny when we think about it.

2014-04-20, 16:22	#19
VictordeHolland "Victor de Hollander" Aug 2011 the Netherlands 1176₁₀ Posts	Well if you still have the 280X, I would keep it! You keep money in your pocket, that you can use to pay the electricity bill. Running it at 1000 MHz will yield more or less the same Trail Factoring GHzdays performance as a not OCed GTX580. Since you are not running 24/7, running it a bit longer a day will get you a better or the same result. Greetings from the Netherlands ;), Victor