Eye glasses... - Page 2

chalsall · 2014-01-12, 01:21

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Originally Posted by Chuck

Remember also that you can "de-power" your lenses by pulling the glasses slightly away from your eyes. This can help fine-tune things.

Know that. Ran those experiments as well.

philmoore · 2014-01-12, 22:38

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Originally Posted by Chuck

Remember also that you can "de-power" your lenses by pulling the glasses slightly away from your eyes. This can help fine-tune things.

This is much more true with a high-diopter correction, however. My eyes are -8 and -9, and I do fine reading with them pulled down the bridge of my nose, but at lower corrections, the effect is relatively less.

chalsall · 2014-01-13, 17:01

Just to follow up on my experience...

I went back to the optometrist / eye-glass supplier today, and registered my complaint.

They were quite hostile when I told them that I wanted the progressive lenses replaced with my distance prescription at their expense, plus a rebate for the price difference. They actually said "You should have known you wouldn't have peripheral vision with progressives -- everyone knows that. You get used to it.

The owner (who's also an optometrist) took me into the examination room, and tried to convince me that "I'll get used to them". "No I won't", said I, "Please do what I've asked. I should have been told about the peripheral vision issue when I was sold the glasses, not when I picked them up.

O: "OK, here's what I'll do -- I'll give you a full refund, and you leave and never come back, because soon enough you'll be back somewhere else getting progressives.

M: "Deal. And, no, I'll never try progressives again. In a few years I may try bi-focals.

O: "That won't give you computer use.

M: "No, but it will give me peripheral. And I'll just use my computer glasses when at the computer.

An interesting experience....

f1pokerspeed · 2014-01-13, 19:30

Assuming you're in the UK, under the Sale of Goods Act you would have been able to take them back and get a full refund no matter what because the product was not as described.

In the USA, provided you notified the seller of a defect (which by the sound of it you have), you should be covered w.r.t the Uniform Commercial Code - one of the clauses being the buyer's right to "perfect tender", which shows that:

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Originally Posted by http://definitions.uslegal.com/c/contracts-cure/

A buyer may revoke his or her acceptance of a nonconforming product if the nonconformity substantially impairs its value to the buyer, and
the product was accepted on the reasonable assumption that its nonconformity would be cured and it has not been cured in a timely manner, or if the product was accepted without discovery of such nonconformity, where the buyer's acceptance was reasonably induced either by the difficulty of discovery before acceptance or by the seller's assurances.

Either way, you SHOULD be covered.

CRGreathouse · 2014-01-13, 22:24

I notice:

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Originally Posted by chalsall

Location: Barbados

wblipp · 2014-01-17, 17:27

I wore executive bifocals for about 20 years ending last month. These are divided top and bottom - the entire bottom is the near vision. This solves the peripheral vision problem. I went bifocal rather than progressive because I was unwilling to do the nod up and down to find the perfect spot and believed the great variety also meant there would be a very narrow range of angle that was best for any particular task. I went with executive instead of the traditional inset because of the "owl effect" mentioned earlier.

Sales people used to tout progressives so there would be no visible line, so people wouldn't know you had bifocals. If vanity was a serious issue, I would be buying contacts, not glasses. I try to avoid things that make me sexier anyway - I encounter fewer challenges to fidelity in my marriage.

My newest glasses are distance only. I'm at that stage where the nearsightedness of my youth and the far sightedness of old age are cancelling; I've been most comfortable without glasses for reading and computer work for a while now. My eyes are very different. The optometrist says that when this balance stops working for my good eye, if should start woring for my bad eye.

chappy · 2014-01-17, 17:44

Shouldn't the subtitle be "Was: scoping with senility"

cheesehead · 2014-01-22, 10:34

I've worn progressives for several years and like them just fine. I do have modest astigmatism (< 1.0).

When I focus on, say, this monitor screen, then turn my head horizontally there are some small changes in focus in various parts of my vision, but my eyes automatically adjust to them, and I don't even notice except when paying particular attention (like right now).

chalsall, have you taken your glasses to some different optometrists to see whether their measurements show that there's anything wrong with yours?

chalsall · 2014-01-22, 15:27

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Originally Posted by cheesehead

chalsall, have you taken your glasses to some different optometrists to see whether their measurements show that there's anything wrong with yours?

Thanks for your feedback cheesehead. This is useful for a guest article I'm going to be writing for a local Blog.

To answer your question, I didn't take them to be independently tested, because the experiments I ran convinced me that the near and far prescriptions were correct (at least, when looking exactly straight ahead).

It was entirely the peripheral vision issue -- I was extremely angry that I was not warned about this when I was sold the glasses; only when I picked them up.

But, I refuse to wear glasses where when looking (at something distant) through the distance portion of the glasses and turn my head less than ten degrees that I actually see better looking over the glasses (or, not at all).

cheesehead · 2014-01-23, 00:37

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Originally Posted by chalsall

It was entirely the peripheral vision issue

But that's why I asked about an independent measurement, to see whether the peripheral vision issue (which sounds much worse than mine) is due to some flaw.

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-- I was extremely angry that I was not warned about this when I was sold the glasses; only when I picked them up.

That is quite strange.

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But, I refuse to wear glasses where when looking (at something distant) through the distance portion of the glasses and turn my head less than ten degrees that I actually see better looking over the glasses (or, not at all).

Also quite strange.

chalsall · 2014-01-23, 00:45

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Originally Posted by cheesehead

But that's why I asked about an independent measurement, to see whether the peripheral vision issue (which sounds much worse than mine) is due to some flaw.

That is quite strange.

Also quite strange.

Fine cheesehead.

Thanks again for your late help in this analysis.

2014-01-13, 17:01	#14
chalsall If I May "Chris Halsall" Sep 2002 Barbados 3³×19² Posts	Just to follow up on my experience... I went back to the optometrist / eye-glass supplier today, and registered my complaint. They were quite hostile when I told them that I wanted the progressive lenses replaced with my distance prescription at their expense, plus a rebate for the price difference. They actually said "You should have known you wouldn't have peripheral vision with progressives -- everyone knows that. You get used to it. The owner (who's also an optometrist) took me into the examination room, and tried to convince me that "I'll get used to them". "No I won't", said I, "Please do what I've asked. I should have been told about the peripheral vision issue when I was sold the glasses, not when I picked them up. O: "OK, here's what I'll do -- I'll give you a full refund, and you leave and never come back, because soon enough you'll be back somewhere else getting progressives. M: "Deal. And, no, I'll never try progressives again. In a few years I may try bi-focals. O: "That won't give you computer use. M: "No, but it will give me peripheral. And I'll just use my computer glasses when at the computer. An interesting experience....

2014-01-17, 17:27	#17
wblipp "William" May 2003 New Haven 2×7×13² Posts	I wore executive bifocals for about 20 years ending last month. These are divided top and bottom - the entire bottom is the near vision. This solves the peripheral vision problem. I went bifocal rather than progressive because I was unwilling to do the nod up and down to find the perfect spot and believed the great variety also meant there would be a very narrow range of angle that was best for any particular task. I went with executive instead of the traditional inset because of the "owl effect" mentioned earlier. Sales people used to tout progressives so there would be no visible line, so people wouldn't know you had bifocals. If vanity was a serious issue, I would be buying contacts, not glasses. I try to avoid things that make me sexier anyway - I encounter fewer challenges to fidelity in my marriage. My newest glasses are distance only. I'm at that stage where the nearsightedness of my youth and the far sightedness of old age are cancelling; I've been most comfortable without glasses for reading and computer work for a while now. My eyes are very different. The optometrist says that when this balance stops working for my good eye, if should start woring for my bad eye.

2014-01-17, 17:44	#18
chappy "Jeff" Feb 2012 St. Louis, Missouri, USA 13·89 Posts	Shouldn't the subtitle be "Was: scoping with senility"

2014-01-22, 10:34	#19
cheesehead "Richard B. Woods" Aug 2002 Wisconsin USA 2²·3·641 Posts	I've worn progressives for several years and like them just fine. I do have modest astigmatism (< 1.0). When I focus on, say, this monitor screen, then turn my head horizontally there are some small changes in focus in various parts of my vision, but my eyes automatically adjust to them, and I don't even notice except when paying particular attention (like right now). chalsall, have you taken your glasses to some different optometrists to see whether their measurements show that there's anything wrong with yours?