The "(W)TF Depth Debate" state of the bunion

[chalsall]

[Comm thread Dec 6 13:05] Sending result to server: UID: LaurV/R720_6, M64574207 completed P-1, B1=580000, B2=11455000, E=12, We8: 86256239
[Comm thread Dec 6 13:05] PrimeNet success code with additional info:
[Comm thread Dec 6 13:05] CPU credit is 4.1240 GHz-days.

Better get to work LaurV!

[kracker]

Originally Posted by chalsall

[Comm thread Dec 6 13:05] Sending result to server: UID: LaurV/R720_6, M64574207 completed P-1, B1=580000, B2=11455000, E=12, We8: 86256239
[Comm thread Dec 6 13:05] PrimeNet success code with additional info:
[Comm thread Dec 6 13:05] CPU credit is 4.1240 GHz-days.

Better get to work LaurV!

Same, in a few hours

[LaurV]

Originally Posted by chalsall

I'll do this later today -- look for machines named like "R720_n" showing up in your reports.

If you could bring your GPUs over to TFing ASAP, it would be appreciated. This will probably help tide us over until Jerry gets his water cooled monster back online!

I see 3 of them on my computer list already (2, 4 and 6) and one of them already reported a bit more of 4G worth of P-1 credit, so IOU ~33G of TF. I am configuring one card right now. The second still has ~25 minutes to crunch on the last gpu72 assigned manual DC, so I will let to finish, otherwise I will forget about it.

We have a relatively "safe" way with the credit: you can set the config file in Misfit with your gimps user and password, and send the two lines to me, I put them in my file (substituting mine) and it will report for you. The password is hashed, and even if I would know it in clear, or hack it, I can't do too much with it, beside reporting results for you. This way is "relatively" safe (i.e. I still can put some work power in finding the hash, which would make no sense, you can change it any time).

So, what work type should I chose? (or you can set a complete misfit config and send it to me, with worktype, report time, etc, in which I would only fill my folders where mfaktc is).

Edit: hey guys, take it easy, haha, I am doing it right now (didn't see the last posts, crosses, etc). I am old guy moving slowly..

[chalsall]

Originally Posted by LaurV

Edit: hey guys, take it easy, haha, I am doing it right now (didn't see the last posts, crosses, etc). I am old guy moving slowly..

LOL...

Thanks LaurV. And, really, don't worry about the credits (at least for me). I almost never use Windows (I think the last time was something like about 8 months ago), so I don't have easy access to MISFIT to leverage on it's encrypted password functionality.

With regards to work-type, please choose "Let GPU72 decide" (#9 internally). Edit: Oh, and please have MISFIT return the results every hour or so -- the P-1 workers are *really* hungry!!!

Thanks again. And please let us know how much P-1 GHzDays/day you can actually trade. We'd hate to give you more than you can handle...

[kracker]

Originally Posted by chalsall

We'd hate to give you more than you can handle...

[LaurV]

Up and running. Configured for hourly reports, first ~29G ETA 38 minutes. These two cards can put out together ~36GHzD/h during the day and ~39GHzD/h during the night in this period of the year. ("/h" means "per hour", nights are cooler). This is right now about 28% of my GPU TF power, so you better don't think I will get (too much) behind

[chalsall]

Originally Posted by LaurV

This is right now about 28% of my GPU TF power, so you better don't think I will get (too much) behind

JFFC!!! I don't even want to guess what your electrical bill is each month!

So, to put on the table, just how much P-1 are you willing to trade? I /could/ throw another 25% or so your way. Let's "play it by ear" the next few days.

Also, we all perhaps should come to terms on the "currency exchange" rate. I would like to suggest we use Primenet, since GPU72 has a known issue of not being able to accurately calculate the credit because it doesn't have full access to important variables in the results stream, and tends to under-credit.

Not a huge issue -- just being pedantic. It's about a 33% difference. (Yeah, I know... I really need to get out more....)

[kracker]

Originally Posted by LaurV

Up and running. Configured for hourly reports, first ~29G ETA 38 minutes. These two cards can put out together ~36GHzD/h during the day and ~39GHzD/h during the night in this period of the year. ("/h" means "per hour", nights are cooler). This is right now about 28% of my GPU TF power, so you better don't think I will get (too much) behind

Really curious now What GPU's do you have?

[LaurV]

Originally Posted by chalsall

JFFC!!! I don't even want to guess what your electrical bill is each month!

Well, the electricity is cheap here, and I never work "full power" due to heat issues. Part of the rig is mining, part is doing real life jobs, but my problem is really the heat, and not the electricity. Philosophically speaking, if one could be able to get rid of the heat efficiently, he would be millionaire next day. It is so freaking easy to produce this heat, and so freaking hard to get rid of it. Anything we do, from cooking, running the computers, the cars engines, even the refrigerators, or scrubbing the floor, pressing the break pedal of the car, everything end up in a lot of heat, which sometime is useful, but most of the time we have to get rid of it and we can't...

edit: on the brighter side, i just reported 2x14.7G, are you sure you don't want the credit? I won't ask second time :D

edit2 @kracker: it is one 7970, one 7990 (which you know about, from the mfakto/cllucas threads) air cooled, and five gtx580 water cooled.

[chalsall]

Originally Posted by LaurV

Philosophically speaking, if one could be able to get rid of the heat efficiently, he would be millionaire next day.

Welcome to the reality of thermal dynamics...

Originally Posted by LaurV

edit: on the brighter side, i just reported 2x14.7G, are you sure you don't want the credit? I won't ask second time :D

Keep'em. My enjoyment in all of this is the software and the community.

[kladner]

Originally Posted by chalsall

To be perfectly honest, we currently have TOO MUCH P-1 fire-power!

[snip]

Further, for the record, the P-1 work I'm doing is all CPU based -- my lone 580 is doing TFing. I may shift my CPUs to DCing to make more appropriately TFed candidates available for P-1'ing to others.

This is simply a meta-perspective of the current situation. Again, as always, people are free to do what they want.

So would it be good for me to change my CPU from P-1 to DC? It doesn't matter to me. My real output comes from the GPU TF work. I could even throw back any untouched P-1s I have in queue. Again, I don't care what the CPU is doing since I mainly see it as the platform for the GPUs to work from.