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chalsall · 2013-05-06, 19:30

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Originally Posted by Batalov

If you don't really know the answers, I've got a bridge to sell you.

Everyone gets to do whatever they want. Even if it doesn't make sense.

It's called free will....

swl551 · 2013-05-06, 20:15

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Originally Posted by Batalov

Do you have any idea what that project does, how it does it, and what are its limitations? Milestones? What have they "folded"? How precisely? "What if you could share your computer power to help find a cure?" What have they cured so far? How is it different from, say, Rosetta@Home?

If you don't really know the answers, I've got a bridge to sell you.

A stunning example. Thank you for making my point so clearly.

Batalov · 2013-05-06, 20:43

Note that I haven't told anyone what to do in the slightest (except maybe searching for answers before blindly following?).

I merely expressed my surprise at the (unfounded):

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Originally Posted by swl551

folding at home now gets 100% of my computational power. No wankers spreading b.s. All the time.

chalsall · 2013-05-06, 20:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Batalov

Note that I haven't told anyone what to do in the slightest (except maybe searching for answers before blindly following?).

I merely expressed my surprise at the (unfounded):

Some are uncomfortable with questions....

swl551 · 2013-05-07, 12:21

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Originally Posted by Batalov

Do you have any idea what that project does, how it does it, and what are its limitations? Milestones? What have they "folded"? How precisely? "What if you could share your computer power to help find a cure?" What have they cured so far? How is it different from, say, Rosetta@Home?

If you don't really know the answers, I've got a bridge to sell you.

My brother had eye cancer. He started folding at home and he is now in remission. Doctors says it was caused by watching trial factoring screen outputs, but healed by watching F@H's 3d gene modeller.

So take you assumptions and burn em. My statements are based on fact.

Batalov · 2013-05-07, 16:39

You could have just typed: "No, I don't know the answers. And I don't want to know them" without your morbid attempt at humor.

Before behaving like a child, ask yourself - "What does Batalov know about protein folding anyway? Maybe I could search PubMed? Maybe he knows Baker, Pande, and many others in the field? Maybe he co-wrote one fairly well-known molecular modeling software package?" Again, these are just questions that take only a few minutes to get answers. Learning molecular modeling would take much longer, but with a bit of interest one can find a few courses on Coursera or elsewhere to get some initial understanding over a few weeks.

Without that, sure, nothing could be easier than press "attach to project", watch pretty screen savers and feel warm inside. But a project you chose to run may just as well be yet another "mersenne @ home". Entirely your choice.

swl551 · 2013-05-07, 16:54

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Originally Posted by Batalov

You could have just typed: "No, I don't know the answers. And I don't want to know them" without your morbid attempt at humor.

Before behaving like a child, ask yourself - "What does Batalov know about protein folding anyway? Maybe I could search PubMed? Maybe he knows Baker, Pande, and many others in the field? Maybe he co-wrote one fairly well-known molecular modeling software package?" Again, these are just questions that take only a few minutes to get answers. Learning molecular modeling would take much longer, but with a bit of interest one can find a few courses on Coursera or elsewhere to get some initial understanding over a few weeks.

Without that, sure, nothing could be easier than press "attach to project", watch pretty screen savers and feel warm inside. But a project you chose to run may just as well be yet another "mersenne @ home". Entirely your choice.

Before you answered you could have asked yourself. Does he really give two poops about anything I have ever done.... The answer would be obvious.

kracker · 2013-05-07, 17:19

I have to agree with swl551 with atleast one thing: this forum has way more arguing and bs than most other forums I have been in.

chalsall · 2013-05-07, 17:47

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Originally Posted by kracker

I have to agree with swl551 with atleast one thing: this forum has way more arguing and bs than most other forums I have been in.

Try working in the scientific and/or engineering fields...

Emotion doesn't (or, at least, shouldn't) enter into it. Nor should BS. Although, admittedly, they often do...

But argument is what it's all about! One should be comfortable with "debate" (and admitting when one is wrong, or doesn't know)....

kracker · 2013-05-07, 17:57

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Originally Posted by chalsall

Try working in the scientific and/or engineering fields...

Emotion doesn't (or, at least, shouldn't) enter into it. Nor should BS. Although, admittedly, they often do...

But argument is what it's all about! One should be comfortable with "debate" (and admitting when one is wrong, or doesn't know)....

I have no problem with arguing when the end result is beneficial/profitable.

But however, much of the fighting here,(and I won't name) is useless and goes more personal than it should be, and over usually stupid things.

Aramis Wyler · 2013-05-07, 20:51

It may be a little beside the point of the argument, but the argument doesn't interest me half as much as the implication that the Stanford University research division running the folding@home project is either a complete sham or full of wankers spouting BS. I find this implication unusually surprising, and am curious why it exists?

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2013-05-07, 16:39	#2228
Batalov "Serge" Mar 2008 Phi(4,2^7658614+1)/2 2·47·101 Posts	You could have just typed: "No, I don't know the answers. And I don't want to know them" without your morbid attempt at humor. Before behaving like a child, ask yourself - "What does Batalov know about protein folding anyway? Maybe I could search PubMed? Maybe he knows Baker, Pande, and many others in the field? Maybe he co-wrote one fairly well-known molecular modeling software package?" Again, these are just questions that take only a few minutes to get answers. Learning molecular modeling would take much longer, but with a bit of interest one can find a few courses on Coursera or elsewhere to get some initial understanding over a few weeks. Without that, sure, nothing could be easier than press "attach to project", watch pretty screen savers and feel warm inside. But a project you chose to run may just as well be yet another "mersenne @ home". Entirely your choice.

2013-05-07, 17:19	#2230
kracker "Mr. Meeseeks" Jan 2012 California, USA 2³×271 Posts	I have to agree with swl551 with atleast one thing: this forum has way more arguing and bs than most other forums I have been in.

2013-05-07, 20:51	#2233
Aramis Wyler "Bill Staffen" Jan 2013 Pittsburgh, PA, USA 2³·53 Posts	It may be a little beside the point of the argument, but the argument doesn't interest me half as much as the implication that the Stanford University research division running the folding@home project is either a complete sham or full of wankers spouting BS. I find this implication unusually surprising, and am curious why it exists?