Treading LL P-1 for 100M TF

[kladner]

@davieddy
Again. One more time. You forget why people do this stuff. Not everyone shares your particular goals. Everyone does what tickles his/her particular fancy.

I do a lot of TF and P-1 work, mostly in the low 60Ms. I take last-bit cleanup work. If I take lower TF levels I run them out to their recommended release levels. If it amuses me to do a bit of factoring in Uncwilly's backyard, what is that to you?

What is this obsession which would make worthless any contribution which does not meet your rather cramped standards? Factoring in the 332M stratosphere is not really THAT much more abstruse than the GIMPS project in general. Why should every last erg be devoted to "advancing the wave?"
Why this obsession with how long the next Mersenne Prime will be in coming?

All work (correctly) done fills in gaps in the data. As processing power increases some people naturally have the urge to prospect in previously-impractical ranges and see what their hot gear can do. Kind of like I used to drive out into the countryside to see how quick off the mark my car was. Maybe it amounts to no more than engine-revving before a race: showing off, willy-waving, or whatever.

However, I never agreed to race nonstop in the first place.

Again, my compliments on your skill at getting people drawn in and participating in your habitual nastiness. It is rich, though, that you "cry havoc and loose the dogs of war" for the "intemperate" language of others.

[davieddy]

Originally Posted by science_man_88

last I checked you said that TF by CPU was basically pointless (since TF by GPU can do more), so how is making it more pointless really any worse? it's better than not using CPU to do anything so it's not the worst option.

I was merely mocking his use of "undeserved" when he presumably meant "neglected".

I'm surprised a grammatical wizard such as you would fail to pick up on this.

[kladner]

Originally Posted by davieddy

I was merely mocking his use of "undeserved" when he presumably meant "neglected".

It is pretty clear what the intended word is. I did not notice the missing "r" until you mentioned it. I read the obvious intention. I realize the typos can produce very funny results, but they are still only typos.

EDIT: This corrupted part of the thread really should be moved to one of the usual locations.

[davieddy]

Originally Posted by kladner

Again, my compliments on your skill at getting people drawn in and participating in your habitual nastiness. It is rich, though, that you "cry havoc and loose the dogs of war" for the "intemperate" language of others.

Have you ever considered writing for a living?

Confronted with your monotonous whinging, I feel obliged to defend myself.
I am aware that this can include being very cutting. I ameliorate this with the occasional frivolity which apparently goes clean over your head.

Why should you feel threatened by the intellect and street-savieness of an old codger like me?

D

[Uncwilly]

Originally Posted by Uncwilly

This trading scheme has brought fresh cpu's to the most undeserved segment of this project (namely P-1). So far 1,097 GHz-days have been saved by this little exchange (a net gain of 873).

I will point out here that in the last 20 days, I have saved more work (the noted net gain) by this this little diversion than you have contributed in the last year.

Originally Posted by davieddy

If this post were written more cogently, I should be responding on the ins and outs of P-1, which I haven't addressed here yet but would like to.

Between my disability and spell check, a single letter got left out.

Originally Posted by davieddy

Instead I have to put down yet another thinly-veiled torrent of insults.

So you enjoy picking on the disabled? Showing off your true colours.....

Originally Posted by davieddy

Can you refute my argument that trying to find a 100M digit prime is currently a forlorn effort?

That is irrelevant. I have never attempted a 100M digit LL. All my efforts are to make sure that those who do attempt the LL's don't do so wastefully (when a factor can be found reasonably, which is the whole purpose of GIMPS doing TF and P-1).

Originally Posted by davieddy

You and I go back several years. It disappoints me to see you jumping on the bandwagon of these upstarts.

Jumping on the bandwagon? Really? I think that 2008 is before any bandwagon. And nine years ago is prior to the road even being surveyed.

Originally Posted by davieddy

A very good older friend of mine frequently remarked on the attractiveness of young boys and girls.

You have a filthy mouth. That post was not family friendly and this is not the soapbox, so your are not appropriate here.

Originally Posted by kladner

Again. One more time. You forget why people do this stuff. Not everyone shares your particular goals. Everyone does what tickles his/her particular fancy.

I do a lot of TF and P-1 work, mostly in the low 60Ms. I take last-bit cleanup work. If I take lower TF levels I run them out to their recommended release levels. If it amuses me to do a bit of factoring in Uncwilly's backyard, what is that to you?

Exactly.

Originally Posted by kladner

EDIT: This corrupted part of the thread really should be moved to one of the usual locations.

Yep. That is part of the reason that I asked for the posts about the trading to be moved to their own thread.

[kladner]

Originally Posted by kladner

I see that the exponent (332411273) was handed out the next day for LL. I don't know if that would include P-1.

I am curious. If I were to TF another 332M to a high level, would it be possible for me to carry the assignment over to P-1? I could afford to dedicate one core to such an effort. Would doing P-1 on 332411273 constitute poaching?

[Uncwilly]

Originally Posted by kladner

Would doing P-1 on 332411273 constitute poaching?

Yeah, it would... It would take a while to see if it actually gets worked on.

Originally Posted by kladner

If I were to TF another 332M to a high level, would it be possible for me to carry the assignment over to P-1? I could afford to dedicate one core to such an effort.

If you get it from PrimeNet as an LL assignment, you could own it for as long as you want.

[davieddy]

Originally Posted by Uncwilly

I will point out here that in the last 20 days, I have saved more work (the noted net gain) by this this little diversion than you have contributed in the last year.
Between my disability and spell check, a single letter got left out.
So you enjoy picking on the disabled? Showing off your true colours.....
You have a filthy mouth. That post was not family friendly and this is not the soapbox, so your are not appropriate here.

You were not very high on my mental "favourite correspondents" list, but this is an all time low to which I had not expected you to stoop.

These days I have single Core2 which suits my current needs. When I worked in IT I had access to a lot of things. I run first time LL 24/7, which puts me at ~1500 on the list to which you so tactfully linked. As such, I can feel that I am contributing sincerely to GIMPS, and empathize with the legions of run-of-the-mill participants.

What is your disability? I shall get my violin out if necessary.

Unlike the supermod to whom I was responding, I avoided the "W" word, and I would suggest that "filthy" applies more to your mind than my mouth.
Could you relate my anecdote more delicately?
You are a hypocritical puritan. Suck on that, along with a bar of soap.

D

[kracker]

*sigh* too many areas of this forum feels like war.

[Aramis Wyler]

Progress so far:

Number    | Work  | Range | Date Reserved    | GHzD/D | Status
332309833 | LL TF | 73-79 | 2013-04-02 00:30 | 362.67 | No Factor
332310091 | LL TF | 73-79 | 2013-04-05 01:55 | 362.67 | No Factor
332311081 | LL TF | 73-79 | 2013-04-09 19:04 | 362.67 | No Factor
332283779 | LL TF | 73-79 | 2013-04-16 11:58 | 362.70 | No Factor
332283821 | LL TF | 73-79 | 2013-04-16 11:58 | 362.70 | No Factor
332283841 | LL TF | 73-79 | 2013-04-21 19:07 | 362.70 | Testing
332283859 | LL TF | 73-79 | 2013-04-21 19:07 | 362.70 | Testing

You tried to do a p-1 on a 332M number once, didn't you Unc? How long did that take?

[Aramis Wyler]

Originally Posted by kladner

Was that, by chance, to 81? Only one would have to be my work.

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I am curious. If I were to TF another 332M to a high level, would it be possible for me to carry the assignment over to P-1? I could afford to dedicate one core to such an effort. Would doing P-1 on 332411273 constitute poaching?

Ah, you know, you did do one to 81, so 2 were done to 81. I actually forgot about that, because when I started factoring them to 79 the other week only one had been factored past 74, and that one was factored all the way out to 85.

I suspect there there is a period between when you turn your TF'd number in to gpu72 and when gpu72 releases it. You could probably use the 'highest TF level' with a min of 332M to find the one you had just turned in to 79, reserve it to 80, then p-1 the thing for primenet. When you're done with the p-1, you can simply unreserve the tf to 80. Since I've got 2 already running, I'll try to grab one of them for you tommorow.