GPU to 72 status... - Page 197

chalsall · 2013-04-04, 13:19

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Originally Posted by James Heinrich

Sorry, I thought I said in the ALT tag, but looking back at my post I guess I didn't actually say that.

Ah, thanks for pointing that out -- a cut-and-paste (then edit) error. Fixed.

kracker · 2013-04-04, 14:51

It seems on my bottom graph, the dates are squished together.

Aramis Wyler · 2013-04-09, 01:02

Looks like we finally ran out of numbers < 63M. My 580 puttered out around 2pm EST. I switched both cards to bitdepth 74, though the 480 still has a few 73s left.

kladner · 2013-04-09, 01:26

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Originally Posted by Aramis Wyler

Looks like we finally ran out of numbers < 63M. My 580 puttered out around 2pm EST. I switched both cards to bitdepth 74, though the 480 still has a few 73s left.

I have a couple of dozen 62.9M's in queue. A few days more to clear them.

chalsall · 2013-04-09, 14:49

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Originally Posted by Aramis Wyler

Looks like we finally ran out of numbers < 63M. My 580 puttered out around 2pm EST. I switched both cards to bitdepth 74, though the 480 still has a few 73s left.

There are 206 candidates in the 62M range which are "pledged" to only 72. Plus another 99 between 60M and 63M TFed to less than 73 which we might get access to (they're currently assigned by Primenet).

But, yes, overall we're effectively done (or, at least, fully assigned) below 63M.

Aramis Wyler · 2013-04-10, 01:33

It's getting close enough that we could probably make a betting pool on when the DC-TF would finish, if it weren't so easy to manipulate. I'd guess June 1.

ckdo · 2013-04-10, 06:00

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Originally Posted by Uncwilly

When is the projected date where DC-TF should be effectively finished?

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Originally Posted by Aramis Wyler

It's getting close enough that we could probably make a betting pool on when the DC-TF would finish, if it weren't so easy to manipulate. I'd guess June 1.

If you mean some June 1 in the 2020s, that's entirely possible.

Aramis Wyler · 2013-04-10, 11:40

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Originally Posted by ckdo

If you mean some June 1 in the 2020s, that's entirely possible.

Heh!

With regard to TF DCs, I'd love to see newcomers work on them, though I disagree that they are the best work. I say that because raising the 33m range to 71 actually takes just as long as raising the 65M range we're in to 72 - the exponent is twice as large, and so the time to factor is half as long. So really, going to 72 in the current range is faster and more usefull than going to 71 in the DC range.

Now actually LL'ing the DCs themselves, that's another story - newcomers can have at, but that's not what anyone is talking about. We're talking about finishing their TF set because that is finite. Doublechecking the LL test itself is an infinite set of work.

Aside from all that - that the basic premise that TFDC is in any way more appropriate for newcomers because it's both more work and less fruitfull - newcomers don't line up to do TFDC work. There's nothing in it for them. People want to find primes, people want to see accomplishments, and that means tunning LL tests. People that do TFDC work are in it for the long haul, and aren't taking work away from anyone.

petrw1 · 2013-04-10, 21:39

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Originally Posted by Aramis Wyler

I say that because raising the 33m range to 71 actually takes just as long as raising the 65M range we're in to 72 - the exponent is twice as large, and so the time to factor is half as long. So really, going to 72 in the current range is faster and more usefull than going to 71 in the DC range.

Hmmm I don't have a GPU but my entire farm could do about 10 a day of either category. That's it.

Aramis Wyler · 2013-04-10, 22:49

I have no advice on whether or not you should work on either - it's your hardware and power, and I do not believe that the existance of specialized hardware reduces the usefullness of general purpose hardware in a project who's scope exceeds the capacity of both combined.

But if you are trying to choose one or the other (DCTF or LLTF) I would not feel like other people were trying to take your work away by working on either (or both) of those groups themselves. It's just bitterness looking for a place to fester to suggest that in a project where processing time runs from minutes to months up and down the range of numbers that anyone is taking away the work 'most suited' to anyone else. GHD is the same for factoring 20M to 68 as factoring 80M to 70 and 320M to 72. There's more than enough work to go around, it's not going to run out.

chalsall · 2013-04-14, 06:50

For the record, I have grown tired of this game with David.

I have moved all of his recent posts from this thread, and the related replies, to Davieddy's World.

I have no problem with people disagreeing with me -- but at least honest, sincere and logical discussion is expected.

2013-04-10, 01:33	#2162
Aramis Wyler "Bill Staffen" Jan 2013 Pittsburgh, PA, USA 2³×53 Posts	Betting pool! It's getting close enough that we could probably make a betting pool on when the DC-TF would finish, if it weren't so easy to manipulate. I'd guess June 1.

2013-04-14, 06:50	#2167
chalsall If I May "Chris Halsall" Sep 2002 Barbados 2×5×7×139 Posts	So everyone knows... For the record, I have grown tired of this game with David. I have moved all of his recent posts from this thread, and the related replies, to Davieddy's World. I have no problem with people disagreeing with me -- but at least honest, sincere and logical discussion is expected.

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Aramis Wyler "Bill Staffen" Jan 2013 Pittsburgh, PA, USA 2³×53 Posts	I have no advice on whether or not you should work on either - it's your hardware and power, and I do not believe that the existance of specialized hardware reduces the usefullness of general purpose hardware in a project who's scope exceeds the capacity of both combined. But if you are trying to choose one or the other (DCTF or LLTF) I would not feel like other people were trying to take your work away by working on either (or both) of those groups themselves. It's just bitterness looking for a place to fester to suggest that in a project where processing time runs from minutes to months up and down the range of numbers that anyone is taking away the work 'most suited' to anyone else. GHD is the same for factoring 20M to 68 as factoring 80M to 70 and 320M to 72. There's more than enough work to go around, it's not going to run out.