22=11*2-1-1+2! - Page 3

LaurV · 2013-03-11, 09:41

fxe1

(you don't want to win this anymore, do you? :shock:)

Raman · 2013-03-11, 09:47

1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. g3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. f4 d6 6. d3 e6 7. Nf3 Nge7 8. Be3 Nd4 9. O-O O-O
10. Rb1 b6 11. Ne2 Nxf3+ 12. Bxf3 Bb7 13. g4 f5 14. g5 e5 15. c3 fxe4 16. dxe4 d5 17. Qb3 c4
18. Qc2 dxe4 19. Bxe4 Nd5 20. Rbd1 Nxe3 21. Rxd8 Raxd8 22. Qb1 Nxf1 23. Bxb7 Nd2 24. Qe1 exf4
25. Nd4 f3 26. Qxd2 Bxd4+ 27. cxd4 f2+ 28. Kf1 Rde8 29. Bd5+ Kg7 30. Bxc4 Re1+ 31. Qxe1 fxe1Q+
32. Kxe1
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LaurV · 2013-03-11, 10:06

C'mon! You can't touch my pawns as long as I keep them on black, the last one is guarded against your king, you can't keep the white pawn in the middle more then one square, because you can't guard it on black squares, your g5 and either a2 or b2 (depends how you move) are lost, because I can reach them faster with the rook, in fact I can clear your pawns very fast and efficient with that rock, and you even can't check me if I stay on black. I seriously hope that you are not trying to win this anymore.

Raman · 2013-03-11, 13:33

...SYSTEMATIC TIME PERIOD DURATION...

Into our own real game, within it,
for the black side, if in case,
whether, you didn't lose your own knight with,
for the 25...f3, and then certainly,
black side would certainly be, being even furthermore better to,
than right now, within into, material advantage

move something else than to for the 25...f3 ... some other alternative
please don't lose your own knight kindly enough, rather
instead move something else into our own real game, within it
preserve our own material, position advantage, don't ruin it

and then for the black side will be having additional knight
for the bishop exchange within into , be , being , material advantage better to,
than right now and then

25...f3 ... ?? Gets refuted !! certainly

LaurV · 2013-03-11, 14:05

Wake up man, is called sacrifice. I did not give it for free, but for your queen.

Better then wasting time on this side game, tell us what do we move after white[B] 23.Kxf1[/B] :shock: As I am analyzing that response more and more, I get the feeling that is the most difficult to win. We can't do too much with that bishop, even if we keep it and don't exchange it, and we have to do a lot of stupid moves to forbid his queen to break free (remark that in the side game we played, white could not use the queen at all, she was blocked by its own pawns, that is why the exchange of the black bishop for the horse in d4. If the queen breaks free from there, we will have a lot of trouble).

Raman · 2013-03-11, 14:50

...SYSTEMATIC TIME PERIOD DURATION...

Into our own real game, within it,
for the black side, if in case,
whether, you didn't lose your own knight with,
for the 25...f3, and then certainly,
black side would certainly be, being even furthermore better to,
than right now, within into, material advantage

move something else than to for the 25...f3 ... some other alternative
please don't lose your own knight kindly enough, rather
instead move something else into our own real game, within it
preserve our own material, position advantage, don't ruin it

and then for the black side will be having additional knight
for the bishop exchange within into , be , being , material advantage better to,
than right now and then

25...f3 ... ?? Gets refuted !! certainly

Raman · 2013-03-11, 14:51

1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. g3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. f4 d6 6. d3 e6 7. Nf3 Nge7 8. Be3 Nd4 9. O-O O-O
10. Rb1 b6 11. Ne2 Nxf3+ 12. Bxf3 Bb7 13. g4 f5 14. g5 e5 15. c3 fxe4 16. dxe4 d5 17. Qb3 c4
18. Qc2 dxe4 19. Bxe4 Nd5 20. Rbd1 Nxe3 21. Rxd8 Raxd8 22. Qb1 Nxf1 23. Kxf1
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:exclaim:23...Bc8 / 23...Ba6 / 23...Bd5 / 23...Bxe4 / 23...Ba8 / 23...Rd7 / 23...Rf7 / 23...Rb8:question:

LaurV · 2013-03-11, 16:34

Yeah, I had a look into all those moves. Additionally, I also analyzed Rd5, which might look like a futile sacrifice, but after 24:Bxd5, Bxd5 25:Qd1 Be4 they can't capture the pawn, and we play a rook and two bishops and a pawn against a queen and a knight, quite convenient. However, I don't like this variant too much, I am a bit afraid of that white horse, and if we exchange a bishop for it, then I would prefer we have two rocks against a single queen, instead a bishop and rook against it.

Anyhow, now our best move is Nxf1, and we should make it. No mercy for their rook! :smile:

2013-03-11, 09:47	#24
Raman Noodles "Mr. Tuch" Dec 2007 Chennai, India 3×419 Posts	1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. g3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. f4 d6 6. d3 e6 7. Nf3 Nge7 8. Be3 Nd4 9. O-O O-O 10. Rb1 b6 11. Ne2 Nxf3+ 12. Bxf3 Bb7 13. g4 f5 14. g5 e5 15. c3 fxe4 16. dxe4 d5 17. Qb3 c4 18. Qc2 dxe4 19. Bxe4 Nd5 20. Rbd1 Nxe3 21. Rxd8 Raxd8 22. Qb1 Nxf1 23. Bxb7 Nd2 24. Qe1 exf4 25. Nd4 f3 26. Qxd2 Bxd4+ 27. cxd4 f2+ 28. Kf1 Rde8 29. Bd5+ Kg7 30. Bxc4 Re1+ 31. Qxe1 fxe1Q+ 32. Kxe1 :leaving: [ATTACH]9511[/ATTACH] Attached Thumbnails

2013-03-11, 13:33	#26
Raman Noodles "Mr. Tuch" Dec 2007 Chennai, India 1257₁₀ Posts	RETURNED BACK AGAIN AFTERWARDS AFTER ROUTINE POWER FAILURE DAILY SCHEDULER ...SYSTEMATIC TIME PERIOD DURATION... Into our own real game, within it, for the black side, if in case, whether, you didn't lose your own knight with, for the 25...f3, and then certainly, black side would certainly be, being even furthermore better to, than right now, within into, material advantage move something else than to for the 25...f3 ... some other alternative please don't lose your own knight kindly enough, rather instead move something else into our own real game, within it preserve our own material, position advantage, don't ruin it and then for the black side will be having additional knight for the bishop exchange within into , be , being , material advantage better to, than right now and then 25...f3 ... ?? Gets refuted !! certainly Last fiddled with by Raman on 2013-03-11 at 14:24

2013-03-11, 14:50	#28
Raman Noodles "Mr. Tuch" Dec 2007 Chennai, India 3·419 Posts	RETURNED BACK AGAIN AFTERWARDS AFTER ROUTINE POWER FAILURE DAILY SCHEDULER ...SYSTEMATIC TIME PERIOD DURATION... Into our own real game, within it, for the black side, if in case, whether, you didn't lose your own knight with, for the 25...f3, and then certainly, black side would certainly be, being even furthermore better to, than right now, within into, material advantage move something else than to for the 25...f3 ... some other alternative please don't lose your own knight kindly enough, rather instead move something else into our own real game, within it preserve our own material, position advantage, don't ruin it and then for the black side will be having additional knight for the bishop exchange within into , be , being , material advantage better to, than right now and then 25...f3 ... ?? Gets refuted !! certainly

2013-03-11, 14:51	#29
Raman Noodles "Mr. Tuch" Dec 2007 Chennai, India 1257₁₀ Posts	1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. g3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. f4 d6 6. d3 e6 7. Nf3 Nge7 8. Be3 Nd4 9. O-O O-O 10. Rb1 b6 11. Ne2 Nxf3+ 12. Bxf3 Bb7 13. g4 f5 14. g5 e5 15. c3 fxe4 16. dxe4 d5 17. Qb3 c4 18. Qc2 dxe4 19. Bxe4 Nd5 20. Rbd1 Nxe3 21. Rxd8 Raxd8 22. Qb1 Nxf1 23. Kxf1 [ATTACH]9512[/ATTACH] :exclaim:23...Bc8 / 23...Ba6 / 23...Bd5 / 23...Bxe4 / 23...Ba8 / 23...Rd7 / 23...Rf7 / 23...Rb8:question: Attached Thumbnails Last fiddled with by Raman on 2013-03-11 at 15:08

2013-03-11, 09:41	#23
LaurV Romulan Interpreter "name field" Jun 2011 Thailand 41·251 Posts	fxe1 (you don't want to win this anymore, do you? :shock:)

2013-03-11, 10:06	#25
LaurV Romulan Interpreter "name field" Jun 2011 Thailand 41·251 Posts	C'mon! You can't touch my pawns as long as I keep them on black, the last one is guarded against your king, you can't keep the white pawn in the middle more then one square, because you can't guard it on black squares, your g5 and either a2 or b2 (depends how you move) are lost, because I can reach them faster with the rook, in fact I can clear your pawns very fast and efficient with that rock, and you even can't check me if I stay on black. I seriously hope that you are not trying to win this anymore.

2013-03-11, 14:05	#27
LaurV Romulan Interpreter "name field" Jun 2011 Thailand 24063₈ Posts	Wake up man, is called sacrifice. I did not give it for free, but for your queen. Better then wasting time on this side game, tell us what do we move after white[B] 23.Kxf1[/B] :shock: As I am analyzing that response more and more, I get the feeling that is the most difficult to win. We can't do too much with that bishop, even if we keep it and don't exchange it, and we have to do a lot of stupid moves to forbid his queen to break free (remark that in the side game we played, white could not use the queen at all, she was blocked by its own pawns, that is why the exchange of the black bishop for the horse in d4. If the queen breaks free from there, we will have a lot of trouble).

2013-03-11, 16:34	#30
LaurV Romulan Interpreter "name field" Jun 2011 Thailand 41·251 Posts	Yeah, I had a look into all those moves. Additionally, I also analyzed Rd5, which might look like a futile sacrifice, but after 24:Bxd5, Bxd5 25:Qd1 Be4 they can't capture the pawn, and we play a rook and two bishops and a pawn against a queen and a knight, quite convenient. However, I don't like this variant too much, I am a bit afraid of that white horse, and if we exchange a bishop for it, then I would prefer we have two rocks against a single queen, instead a bishop and rook against it. Anyhow, now our best move is Nxf1, and we should make it. No mercy for their rook! :smile: