U.S. Electile Dysfunction 2016

[bsquared]

Originally Posted by chappy

Æsir you can believe in!

This is now hanging on my office door.

[Xyzzy]

Are Democrats really making this an issue? Are they really trying to find fault with Romney for this? Is this what our politics has come to?

Here is an editorial with some interesting points: http://news.yahoo.com/romney-and-the...646812684.html

[Zeta-Flux]

I didn't find that article interesting. I found it partisan and, frankly, stupid. Are these people serious? I guess so...

[AES]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQyUKnCf0YY

[ewmayer]

Originally Posted by Zeta-Flux

I didn't find that article interesting. I found it partisan and, frankly, stupid. Are these people serious? I guess so...

Our electoral politics has devolved into a neverending series of bipartisan-avoiding-taking-on-the-really-important-issues-because-they-are-hard, which means replacement by these kinds of idiotic (but sound-bitey) distractions. If you want to see a serious strike against Romney, see my link to the David Stockman Newsweek piece in the Econ thread.

[chalsall]

Originally Posted by ewmayer

Our electoral politics has devolved into a neverending series of bipartisan-avoiding-taking-on-the-really-important-issues-because-they-are-hard, which means replacement by these kinds of idiotic (but sound-bitey) distractions. If you want to see a serious strike against Romney, see my link to the David Stockman Newsweek piece in the Econ thread.

"Our electoral politics has devolved into a neverending series of bipartisan-avoiding-taking-on-the-really-important-issues-because-they-are-hard, which means replacement by these kinds of idiotic (but sound-bitey) distractions."

But you accept it.

That's why they get away with it.

[AES]

Originally Posted by ewmayer

Our electoral politics has devolved into a neverending series of bipartisan-avoiding-taking-on-the-really-important-issues-because-they-are-hard, which means replacement by these kinds of idiotic (but sound-bitey) distractions. If you want to see a serious strike against Romney, see my link to the David Stockman Newsweek piece in the Econ thread.

Given the "money printing and Wall Street coddling by the Fed" what more can be expected of private businessmen beyond "financial speculator"?

Is this an ethics question?

[chalsall]

Originally Posted by AES

Is this an ethics question?

Sure.

Is this an ethics question?

[AES]

Originally Posted by chalsall

Sure.

Is this an ethics question?

Yes. If his net worth was a fraction of what it is, would he be considered a better person or businessman?

[ewmayer]

Originally Posted by AES

Given the "money printing and Wall Street coddling by the Fed" what more can be expected of private businessmen beyond "financial speculator"?

Romney main self-proclaimed experience of relevance to the economic situation is as a "founder of a business and jobs creator". With respect to the way he is spinning it, that is a very different thing than "financial speculator", "serial corporate-asset-stripping-and-carcass-flipping con artist" and "net destroyer of jobs and economic productive value."

Again, it's not about "expecting more" (although one should in a president) so much as "distortions of own record so severe as to amount to outright falsehoods".

Not that Obama has any more creditable experience in terms of economic turnaround - his "economic plan" continues to consist of "deficit-spend to kingdom come, and hope the patient recovers on his own", but he's not claiming to be some kind of economic-heroic "value-adding entrepreneur", like Mitt the parasite is.

OTOH Obama is claiming credit for "the economic recovery" - but I've called that out as the flagrant BS it is on many occasions.

[AES]

Originally Posted by ewmayer

Romney main self-proclaimed experience of relevance to the economic situation is as a "founder of a business and jobs creator". With respect to the way he is spinning it, that is a very different thing than "financial speculator", "serial corporate-asset-stripping-and-carcass-flipping con artist" and "net destroyer of jobs and economic productive value."

Again, it's not about "expecting more" (although one should in a president) so much as "distortions of own record so severe as to amount to outright falsehoods".

Not that Obama has any more creditable experience in terms of economic turnaround - his "economic plan" continues to consist of "deficit-spend to kingdom come, and hope the patient recovers on his own", but he's not claiming to be some kind of economic-heroic "value-adding entrepreneur", like Mitt the parasite is.

OTOH Obama is claiming credit for "the economic recovery" - but I've called that out as the flagrant BS it is on many occasions.

I can't honestly argue with those points. However, it would be encouraging to see another real budget passed someday…