Will Intel or AMD sell a cpu faster than 4GHz in the next five years? - Page 5

RichD · 2010-04-05, 03:56

Forgive me but I think a more appropriate question would be a 5GHz in the next four years. :-)

joblack · 2010-04-05, 23:22

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Originally Posted by RichD

Forgive me but I think a more appropriate question would be a 5GHz in the next four years. :-)

No way the cpus will get more parallelized but the speed won't be increased by much ...

Robert Holmes · 2010-04-06, 09:54

5 GHz has been done, just not by the x86 people:

http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=ht...90428_annc.pdf

Oddball · 2010-08-24, 00:53

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Originally Posted by Historian

2011 will be the year that diminishing returns from increasing cores begins to play a major role. For 99% of people, there's little to no difference between 4 and 6 cores because most programs aren't multi-threaded. Because of that, it makes more sense to increase clock speed than to increase the number of cores, but the main question is when Intel and AMD will finally realize that.

If this recently leaked roadmap is correct:

http://www.reviewguy.net/technology/...rocessors.html

then Intel will only be releasing dual and quad cores late this year or early next year. Like other posters said, that doesn't mean clock speed will be increased, it may mean that performance per clock cycle is maximized instead.

Freightyard · 2010-08-27, 12:13

I'm withholding my answer to the poll until March 2012.

Personally, I'm a huge fan of my single-core 2 MHz RCA 1802 CPU.

Oddball · 2011-10-12, 06:28

For the record, the correct answer to the poll is "yes":

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/t...-fx8150-tested

Processor: AMD FX 8150
Max Turbo: 4.2 GHz

nucleon · 2011-10-12, 07:54

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Originally Posted by Oddball

For the record, the correct answer to the poll is "yes":

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/t...-fx8150-tested

Processor: AMD FX 8150
Max Turbo: 4.2 GHz

"The FX-8150, 8120, 6100 and 4100 are what's launching today." All have sub 4GHz base clock. Turbo doesn't count (well that's my opinion on the spirit of the original question). The only base clock above 4GHz is 4170 and that's not released yet.

Given the original question was asked in 2007, I'm amazed 4GHz hasn't been achieved in production base clock.

-- Craig

Dubslow · 2011-10-12, 22:26

Agreed. There's a slight chance Ivy Bridge will do it, but I highly doubt it. Assuming non-Turbo speeds, where we are currently, AMD seems more likely, though admittedly neither is particularly likely to do it anytime soon. Whoever voted no should be feeling better and better about it.

jasong · 2012-02-22, 05:48

I'm bumping this, well, because I can...

We appear to be approaching an atomic(?) wall, the supposed limit of atoms. I say supposed because atoms are made of their own tiny little things, you just have to give up on Newtonian physics to deal with them. Mind-blowing stuff to say the least.

I've seen suggestions of things that can be done to keep going further. 3d chips, materials other than silicon, new ways of cooling chips so they don't die early...probably countless other things.

It's been said that if Moore's Law continued at the pace it was going, and it's actually sped up lately, then the known universe would be 100% saturated with information within 500 years. So basically we'd be using every material available to store or process information.

Ray Kruzweil says that very soon(in the next 20-30 years) computers will become so advanced that they will surpass human beings in intelligence and create a runaway technological phenomenon that will appear to change the world overnight. Makes me think of the T1000, the morphing robot in T2, except without the programmed in urge to kill people.

So I want to know, do you guys think the world will go through mind-bending changes soon or will it be business as usual with a possible major slowdown coming up for the electronics industry? Utopia, dystopia or same basic world for the forseeable future?

Dubslow · 2012-02-22, 05:55

As for the atomic barrier, what you're referring to is that at around <10nm, electron tunneling becomes a serious problem, so silicon transistors are nearing their end of life (still a few years left yet though).

As for the robots: Futurama S6E09. That is all.

axn · 2012-02-22, 06:32

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Originally Posted by jasong

So I want to know, do you guys think the world will go through mind-bending changes soon or will it be business as usual with a possible major slowdown coming up for the electronics industry? Utopia, dystopia or same basic world for the forseeable future?

Business as usual.

View Poll Results: Will Intel or AMD make a processor in the next five years that's faster than 4GHz at stock?
Yes, I think so.	20	76.92%
No, I don't think so.	4	15.38%
Gigahertz, what's that?	0	0%
Moore's law is about to die a horrible death.	2	7.69%
Voters: 26. You may not vote on this poll

2012-02-22, 05:48	#53
jasong "Jason Goatcher" Mar 2005 3×7×167 Posts	I hate to see a good thread die ;) I'm bumping this, well, because I can... We appear to be approaching an atomic(?) wall, the supposed limit of atoms. I say supposed because atoms are made of their own tiny little things, you just have to give up on Newtonian physics to deal with them. Mind-blowing stuff to say the least. I've seen suggestions of things that can be done to keep going further. 3d chips, materials other than silicon, new ways of cooling chips so they don't die early...probably countless other things. It's been said that if Moore's Law continued at the pace it was going, and it's actually sped up lately, then the known universe would be 100% saturated with information within 500 years. So basically we'd be using every material available to store or process information. Ray Kruzweil says that very soon(in the next 20-30 years) computers will become so advanced that they will surpass human beings in intelligence and create a runaway technological phenomenon that will appear to change the world overnight. Makes me think of the T1000, the morphing robot in T2, except without the programmed in urge to kill people. So I want to know, do you guys think the world will go through mind-bending changes soon or will it be business as usual with a possible major slowdown coming up for the electronics industry? Utopia, dystopia or same basic world for the forseeable future?

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2010-04-05, 03:56	#45
RichD Sep 2008 Kansas 59·67 Posts	Forgive me but I think a more appropriate question would be a 5GHz in the next four years. :-)

2010-04-06, 09:54	#47
Robert Holmes Oct 2007 2×53 Posts	5 GHz has been done, just not by the x86 people: http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=ht...90428_annc.pdf

2010-08-27, 12:13	#49
Freightyard Nov 2008 San Luis Obispo CA 128₁₀ Posts	I'm withholding my answer to the poll until March 2012. Personally, I'm a huge fan of my single-core 2 MHz RCA 1802 CPU.

2011-10-12, 06:28	#50
Oddball May 2010 111110011₂ Posts	For the record, the correct answer to the poll is "yes": http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/t...-fx8150-tested Processor: AMD FX 8150 Max Turbo: 4.2 GHz

2011-10-12, 22:26	#52
Dubslow Basketry That Evening! "Bunslow the Bold" Jun 2011 40<A<43 -89<O<-88 1C35₁₆ Posts	Agreed. There's a slight chance Ivy Bridge will do it, but I highly doubt it. Assuming non-Turbo speeds, where we are currently, AMD seems more likely, though admittedly neither is particularly likely to do it anytime soon. Whoever voted no should be feeling better and better about it.

2012-02-22, 05:55	#54
Dubslow Basketry That Evening! "Bunslow the Bold" Jun 2011 40<A<43 -89<O<-88 3·29·83 Posts	As for the atomic barrier, what you're referring to is that at around <10nm, electron tunneling becomes a serious problem, so silicon transistors are nearing their end of life (still a few years left yet though). As for the robots: Futurama S6E09. That is all.