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Dec 2003
Hopefully Near M48
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x - sqrt(x^2 - 1)
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Jun 2003
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as x gets very large you get 0 :)
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Dec 2003
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I mean, an exact simplification.
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"Richard B. Woods"
Aug 2002
Wisconsin USA
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This is almost certainly not what you want, and is not exactly a simplification, but "Factoris" at http://wims.unice.fr/~wims/wims.cgi?...ebra/factor.en gives:
The factorization of x-(x2-1)0.5 = (0 - i) + x + (0 + 0.5i) x2 + (0.0 + 0.125i) x4 + (0.0 + 0.0625i) x6 + O(x8) ;-) Last fiddled with by cheesehead on 2004-03-30 at 00:45 |
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"Mark"
Apr 2003
Between here and the
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It appears to be something out of trigonometry, so I looked it up and found:
arccosh(x) = ln(x - sqrt(x² - 1)) so e^arccosh(x) = x - sqrt(x² - 1) |
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Dec 2003
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Thanks for the help, but rogue's formula doesn't work for x = 2.0996011
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"Mark"
Apr 2003
Between here and the
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I don't have a calculator that can do arccosh. What do both terms evaluate to?
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Dec 2003
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LHS ~= 3.945765984
RHS ~= 0.2534362159 |
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"Mark"
Apr 2003
Between here and the
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Oddly, the website I found this in has '-', but others have '+'. Using '+' instead of '-', you get
1) arccosh(x) = ln(x + sqrt(x^2 - 1)) 2) e^arccosh(x) = x + sqrt(x^2 - 1) 3) x - sqrt(x^2 - 1) = (x - sqrt(x^2 - 1)) * (x + sqrt(x^2 - 1))/(x + sqrt(x^2 - 1)) 4) x - sqrt(x^2 - 1) = (x^2 - (x^2 - 1))/(x + sqrt(x^2 - 1)) 5) x - sqrt(x^2 - 1) = 1/(x + sqrt(x^2 - 1)) 6) x - sqrt(x^2 - 1) = 1/(e^arccosh(x)) 7) x - sqrt(x^2 - 1) = e^-arccosh(x) I suspect that e^-arccosh(x) might be simplified as well, but I'll leave that for the next person. Last fiddled with by rogue on 2004-03-30 at 17:42 |
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"Richard B. Woods"
Aug 2002
Wisconsin USA
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Using that one, my calculator shows LHS = RHS = 3.94576598405592039632709017264425 Alternatively, you can try the negative arccosh with the positive square root, in which case LHS = RHS = 0.253436215944079603672909827355751 Last fiddled with by cheesehead on 2004-04-02 at 01:11 |
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