Linux sucks - linker problems

Prime95 · 2010-10-08, 23:11

OK, so I upgraded to the latest Ubuntu to work on a bug report. Moved 26.3 sources over. Typed "make" -- curl.h not found.

OK, a quick google says I need to install the "-dev" version of libcurl. Start package manager. Two choices. One is libcurl-openssl-dev and libcurl-gnutls-dev. Let's try the openssl one.

make. tons of undefined symbols. more google. Packages cyrto and zlib added to makefile.

make. tons more undefineds. more google - little help. try gss package, try kerberos package, try something called asn package, ldap package, try this package, try that package, blah, blah, blah.

three hours later - screw it. Comment out all code that calls libcurl so that I can debug the original problem.

I'm not a complete idiot. My conclusion is that Linux and/or Ubuntu documentation and packaging is WOEFULLY inadequate.

If the latest Debian release is equally bad, a volunteer will be needed to create makefiles for future builds (current linux releases are built on the Debian "etch" release).

Batalov · 2010-10-08, 23:57

...was it any better in OpenSUSE, if you had to compare? Just curious.

moebius · 2010-10-09, 00:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Batalov

...was it any better in OpenSUSE, if you had to compare? Just curious.

a disaster, try to enable w32codecs in an older openSUSE distribution, for the neutered version of kaffeine.

Prime95 · 2010-10-09, 00:26

I didn't try OpenSUSE.

Thanks for letting me vent. I needed it after three frustrating hours doing something as simple as trying to link to library.

ldesnogu · 2010-10-11, 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prime95

Thanks for letting me vent. I needed it after three frustrating hours doing something as simple as trying to link to library.

Heh, I know the feeling: I had the same when I tried to develop on Windows years ago

I'm now very used to look for things in the various Linux package managers. But I agree Linux has a long way to go to please even developers; no need to talk about end-users...

tichy · 2010-12-20, 19:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prime95

after three frustrating hours doing something as simple as trying to link to library.

Have you ever heard of libtool and .la files ?

Batalov · 2010-12-20, 19:39

Necroposting is not a very good habit.

2010-10-08, 23:11	#1
Prime95 P90 years forever! Aug 2002 Yeehaw, FL 2×53×71 Posts	Linux sucks - linker problems OK, so I upgraded to the latest Ubuntu to work on a bug report. Moved 26.3 sources over. Typed "make" -- curl.h not found. OK, a quick google says I need to install the "-dev" version of libcurl. Start package manager. Two choices. One is libcurl-openssl-dev and libcurl-gnutls-dev. Let's try the openssl one. make. tons of undefined symbols. more google. Packages cyrto and zlib added to makefile. make. tons more undefineds. more google - little help. try gss package, try kerberos package, try something called asn package, ldap package, try this package, try that package, blah, blah, blah. three hours later - screw it. Comment out all code that calls libcurl so that I can debug the original problem. I'm not a complete idiot. My conclusion is that Linux and/or Ubuntu documentation and packaging is WOEFULLY inadequate. If the latest Debian release is equally bad, a volunteer will be needed to create makefiles for future builds (current linux releases are built on the Debian "etch" release). Last fiddled with by Prime95 on 2010-10-08 at 23:12

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Prime95 P90 years forever! Aug 2002 Yeehaw, FL 2×53×71 Posts	I didn't try OpenSUSE. Thanks for letting me vent. I needed it after three frustrating hours doing something as simple as trying to link to library.

2010-12-20, 19:39	#7
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