DC-Vault listing and NPLB website - Page 10

russkris · 2009-04-21, 02:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bok

I'm not sure how much Nano needs to maintain his scripts, but given most all of the projects you maintain, I do stats for, I could very simply generate some consistent data for you all to parse instead of going to every project.. If you wish, any kind of format too. (I already do scripts for DPC and TA amongst others to pull data for just their own teams.. )

This would be something you would have to talk with Nano about, but I am sure he will say no.. Nice of you offer, but we like getting them from the projects.

I assume that DC-Vault has the project admins permission to grab the stats files?

IronBits, Let me know what you guys come up with, but seeing as AMDave has a good handle of team creation etc. I cant see a problem, BUT having said that I will have to put it to the DC crunchers.

Razor_FX_II - We all change our minds

russkris · 2009-04-21, 03:06

Just wondering if anyone is popping over to the Vault Forum.

I would like some info on a post in the NPLB thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wabbit98 on the DC-Vault Forum

NPLB can be run in the background when BOINC is running and have a limited affect on both programs.

Ni

HERE

This will be very, very interesting to the DC crunchers

gd_barnes · 2009-04-21, 03:19

Somehow I missed about 20-30 posts in the forum over a period of hours. My head is spinning at the moment.

I just don't have time to read all of the posts as I'm still catching up on admin stuff from the rally. Have you guys just decided to move this entire forum to another location? Would it have been good to make sure I knew about it first? lol

Have you all considered how many different links would need to be redirected?

Yep, stats pack rat I am. I wonder what that makes Karsten? :-) Anyway, I mention that because if we are going to move to a different location, we do need to have most everything go with it.

But before we make the official decision to move, I have a simple question: Why?

Perhaps it has been answered but I didn't catch it through all of the hoopla. This has happened just a little bit TOO fast for my tastes.

David, I've reserved some large ranges for the servers and I'll send you more files shortly.

Thank you,
Gary

IronBits · 2009-04-21, 03:19

I responded, but I think some veterans should pop in and weigh in on that post.

I think we have added two new members and one new team so far today.

Gary, the assumption has always been that everything would get consolidated to one location and preparations are underway to meet this projects needs, for anything that you can think of now and in the foreseeable future.

To have control over your projects own destiny, on a new Server with lots of storage, ram, speedy processors, a web site you can design and modify to fit your every need, a forum you can control and shape in any way you see fit and where you can control the vertical and the horizontal.

This is the direction this project needs to be going in. To stand on it's own two feet.
It's all being handed to you on a silver platter, everyone is working hard to help you get there, what's not to want or like?
Most everyone that has posted or commented on it so far has all been favorable, why the cold feet?

Except for the forums, everything is located right here in my computer room, currently spread over two servers.

I am consolidating you to one dedicated server and giving you the Forum software, which Bok says he can migrate most of what's here now to the new Forum.

Sit back, let it happen, relax, go along for the ride, you will like the final destination.

mdettweiler · 2009-04-21, 03:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by russkris

Just wondering if anyone is popping over to the Vault Forum.

I would like some info on a post in the NPLB thread

This will be very, very interesting to the DC crunchers

Hmm...that's odd. I have to wonder if he's slightly misunderstanding what he's seeing; because LLRnet can by no means do magic with the CPU's obviously limited resources. All it can do is let the OS's task scheduler share the CPU's resources among mulitple programs; in this case, probably what's happening is that LLRnet is using half of the CPU and BOINC is using the other half.

It's possible that he's seeing double due to hyperthreading. If that's the case, then task manager will show both LLRnet and BOINC to be each using an entire CPU at 100%. However, in reality each will be running at about 55%-60% of normal speed. (Note: there *is* a 5-10% gain in that, though a similar effect can be obtained by running BOINC with 2 threads.)

That is, unless Wabbit98 is considering a 50/50 sharing of the CPU to be "limited effects"...

mdettweiler · 2009-04-21, 03:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by gd_barnes

Somehow I missed about 20-30 posts in the forum over a period of hours. My head is spinning at the moment.

I just don't have time to read all of the posts as I'm still catching up on admin stuff from the rally. Have you guys just decided to move this entire forum to another location? Would it have been good to make sure I knew about it first? lol

Have you all considered how many different links would need to be redirected?

Yep, stats pack rat I am. I wonder what that makes Karsten? :-) Anyway, I mention that because if we are going to move to a different location, we do need to have most everything go with it.

But before we make the official decision to move, I have a simple question: Why?

Perhaps it has been answered but I didn't catch it through all of the hoopla. This has happened just a little bit TOO fast for my tastes.

David, I've reserved some large ranges for the servers and I'll send you more files shortly.

Thank you,
Gary

Okay, I'll condense what has went on within the last few days a bit:

First of all, IronBits offered to register us a domain name for our planned website. After some brief sharing of opinions he registered www.noprimeleftbehind.net. He offered to donate a server to run the site on, as well as a spare vBulletin (forum software, like what mersenneforum runs on) license that he had sitting around. A number of users chimed in; some key points in the exchange are here and here. The upshot of the whole thing is that a general consensus has been reached saying that this project is starting to get a little big for just one subforum, and could really benefit from having a forum of its own. So, we've decided to proceed with setting up a forum on the new web site. We *are* going to be copying all the old posts over to the new forum, so nothing will be lost. . In addition, Xyzzy is going to leave NPLB's place on mersenneforum.org's home page occupied for us, but now as a link that redirects to our new forum.

The plan is for Conjectures 'R Us to remain here at mersenneforum (though of course with the requisite links to it on the new NPLB forum, also) since it's somewhat smaller and can benefit from the connection to a well-known higher-math-folks hangout.

I agree things are moving VERY quickly, and it can indeed be hard to keep track of unless you've been watching the forum all day as the discussion went down.

If there's anything about this that isn't quite clear, feel free to contact me on Google Talk--I should be on for at least the next hour or so, and you appear to be online right now, too.

Max

gd_barnes · 2009-04-21, 03:39

Works for me. lol

I saw all of the discussion about a new web page, which I though was great. I missed the part about a new forum.

I would only be getting in the way to object in any manner. Things are moving extremely fast. Actually, I have no objection that I can think of right off since everything will be redirected and copied over.

WOW! What a group!

MyDogBuster · 2009-04-21, 03:45

I have to agree with David and Max. This project is getting big enough to stand on its own. Even xyzzy stated that yesterday I believe. It will give you all the flexability you could ever want. You could set your own limits on number of PM's, sizes of posts, number of posts, etc. It will also allow us to automate whatever we want via the website , like team setup, user setup etc.

I, for one, am willing to work overtime to re-connect any busted links and fix things that may get messed up. The benefits of this are endless.

Edited: Geez, I have to learn to type faster. I was typing my response to your WHY? and before I get done, you agree.
Two finger typing has sufficed for 64 years. I guess it's just not good enuf.

gd_barnes · 2009-04-21, 04:09

Max did a little more explaining by Google chat. Actually, having you state what kind of flexibility it will allow is quite exciting. VERY cool!

gd_barnes · 2009-04-21, 04:10

I have suggested that Max oversee the creation of a web page or assign someone to oversee it.

Mini, can you coordinate with David and/or Max on getting a web page designed? Thanks for offering your expertise there.

Gary

MyDogBuster · 2009-04-21, 05:33

Question for the designers of the website. Is there a lot involved in having a chat area? No big deal, but it might make it easier to converse with newbies or even amongst ourselves. Nothing fancy, just one thread would suffice. I find it hard at times to follow conversations on different threads. (It's an old age thing).

2009-04-21, 03:19	#103
IronBits I ♥ BOINC! Oct 2002 Glendale, AZ. (USA) 3·7·53 Posts	I responded, but I think some veterans should pop in and weigh in on that post. I think we have added two new members and one new team so far today. Gary, the assumption has always been that everything would get consolidated to one location and preparations are underway to meet this projects needs, for anything that you can think of now and in the foreseeable future. To have control over your projects own destiny, on a new Server with lots of storage, ram, speedy processors, a web site you can design and modify to fit your every need, a forum you can control and shape in any way you see fit and where you can control the vertical and the horizontal. This is the direction this project needs to be going in. To stand on it's own two feet. It's all being handed to you on a silver platter, everyone is working hard to help you get there, what's not to want or like? Most everyone that has posted or commented on it so far has all been favorable, why the cold feet? Except for the forums, everything is located right here in my computer room, currently spread over two servers. I am consolidating you to one dedicated server and giving you the Forum software, which Bok says he can migrate most of what's here now to the new Forum. Sit back, let it happen, relax, go along for the ride, you will like the final destination. Last fiddled with by IronBits on 2009-04-21 at 03:32

2009-04-21, 03:45	#107
MyDogBuster May 2008 Wilmington, DE 2²×23×31 Posts	I have to agree with David and Max. This project is getting big enough to stand on its own. Even xyzzy stated that yesterday I believe. It will give you all the flexability you could ever want. You could set your own limits on number of PM's, sizes of posts, number of posts, etc. It will also allow us to automate whatever we want via the website , like team setup, user setup etc. I, for one, am willing to work overtime to re-connect any busted links and fix things that may get messed up. The benefits of this are endless. Edited: Geez, I have to learn to type faster. I was typing my response to your WHY? and before I get done, you agree. Two finger typing has sufficed for 64 years. I guess it's just not good enuf. Last fiddled with by MyDogBuster on 2009-04-21 at 03:49

2009-04-21, 04:10	#109
gd_barnes May 2007 Kansas; USA 10100010101100₂ Posts	I have suggested that Max oversee the creation of a web page or assign someone to oversee it. Mini, can you coordinate with David and/or Max on getting a web page designed? Thanks for offering your expertise there. Gary Last fiddled with by gd_barnes on 2009-04-21 at 04:10

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2009-04-21, 03:19	#102
gd_barnes May 2007 Kansas; USA 2²×19×137 Posts	Somehow I missed about 20-30 posts in the forum over a period of hours. My head is spinning at the moment. I just don't have time to read all of the posts as I'm still catching up on admin stuff from the rally. Have you guys just decided to move this entire forum to another location? Would it have been good to make sure I knew about it first? lol Have you all considered how many different links would need to be redirected? Yep, stats pack rat I am. I wonder what that makes Karsten? :-) Anyway, I mention that because if we are going to move to a different location, we do need to have most everything go with it. But before we make the official decision to move, I have a simple question: Why? Perhaps it has been answered but I didn't catch it through all of the hoopla. This has happened just a little bit TOO fast for my tastes. David, I've reserved some large ranges for the servers and I'll send you more files shortly. Thank you, Gary

2009-04-21, 03:39	#106
gd_barnes May 2007 Kansas; USA 2²·19·137 Posts	Works for me. lol I saw all of the discussion about a new web page, which I though was great. I missed the part about a new forum. I would only be getting in the way to object in any manner. Things are moving extremely fast. Actually, I have no objection that I can think of right off since everything will be redirected and copied over. WOW! What a group!

2009-04-21, 04:09	#108
gd_barnes May 2007 Kansas; USA 2²×19×137 Posts	Max did a little more explaining by Google chat. Actually, having you state what kind of flexibility it will allow is quite exciting. VERY cool!

2009-04-21, 05:33	#110
MyDogBuster May 2008 Wilmington, DE B24₁₆ Posts	Question for the designers of the website. Is there a lot involved in having a chat area? No big deal, but it might make it easier to converse with newbies or even amongst ourselves. Nothing fancy, just one thread would suffice. I find it hard at times to follow conversations on different threads. (It's an old age thing).