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davieddy 2009-04-06 05:56

[quote=Batalov;167991]I wonder if they were lipsynching even then? (Limitations of TV?)
I have an ear for these things -- it is note for note, sound for sound to the disk version.

[SIZE=1](Incidentally, Grace just had a art exhibition right here, in downtown La Jolla, but we didn't go.)[/SIZE][/quote]

I hope you didn't go for some good reason.

Having listened to
[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIkoSPqjaU4&feature=related[/URL]

about 20 times in a row, I can assure you that it was her voice,
composition, charisma, sense of timing, finding a superb backing
group etc etc was a bit more crucial than her artistic abilities.

This ought to be in the "music" thread.

David

PS Much as I appreciated this 40+ years ago, it speaks louder
now. cf several other things. e.g. Dylan songs just impove with age.

davieddy 2009-04-06 06:09

[quote=lavalamp;167978]She just sounds posh is all.[/quote]
[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HZ7-Kj9Szc&feature=related[/URL]
Coventry is halfway to Manchester:)

At the risk of repeating myself, just look at her (she called herself
Tracy Tracy) when she stops singing and turns her head away from the mike.

David

davieddy 2009-04-06 07:10

[quote=Batalov;167991]I wonder if they were lipsynching even then? (Limitations of TV?)
I have an ear for these things -- it is note for note, sound for sound to the disk version.
[/quote]
Spot the lipsynching in this one.
The soundtrack isn't the classic I remember, but if I find it
I'll post it.

PS spot the lipsinking on this bugger:
[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5t7k0qoUvs[/URL]

Batalov 2009-04-06 07:41

[quote=davieddy;168220]Yes it's the disc (as we spell it over here) version. Hope the video didn't confuse you too much. Back in 1967, videos weren't all rage, although they might
have been in the process of invention.[/quote]

No it was ok, but the other version was [I]live[/I]lier
[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1cfTMdjkYM[/URL]

Here's a [URL="http://www.lajollalight.com/entertainment/255195-grace-slick-brings-woodstock-to-la-jolla"]report[/URL] about Grace in La Jolla, just for curiosity. What caught my attention in the local newspaper was a full page ad of [I]young[/I] Grace's picture, the date and the address of the gallery. But, as I said, we ended up no going, even though I was tempted. When I saw that article above, later, I thought we did right by not going. I want her to be young, even if this is quite irrational.

P.S. Both sides have the same thing on [URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5t7k0qoUvs[/URL] ? That's nice. So, there's no way the DJ would have put the wrong track from this promo. Loved it! :-)

lavalamp 2009-04-06 09:46

A hextuple post, nice.[QUOTE=davieddy;168220]Lavalamp: just posh? I Googled her the other day, and she's
old enough to be your 'king Grandmother.[/QUOTE]What does age have to do with sounding posh?

Diana Rigg and Penelope Keith are also old enough to be my grandmothers, but vey still dun't arf talk posh.

davieddy 2009-04-06 13:11

[quote=lavalamp;168264]A hextuple post, nice.What does age have to do with sounding posh?
Diana Rigg and Penelope Keith are also old enough to be my grandmothers, but vey still dun't arf talk posh.[/quote]
Pretentious moi?

I pefer Prunella Scales, or Patsy from Ab Fab
(Joanna Lumley) but then there's no accounting for taste.
I'll respond to Batalov's post after I get a few more beers in.
Even though I'd seen it before, there's nothing like a good
recommendation. I've just listened to his first clip
about 20 times in a row
and it gets better each time. Doors eat your heart out.

davieddy 2009-04-06 13:35

[quote=Batalov;168250]
P.S. Both sides have the same thing on [URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5t7k0qoUvs[/URL] ? That's nice. So, there's no way the DJ would have put
the wrong track from this promo. Loved it! :-)[/quote]

Answer to your first point in my post above. As a connoiseur of the
Primitives (and music in general) I think the two versions of Crash are
different, even if under rated (eg Oasis eat your heart out)
Saw them live, blew my jaundiced mind away:)
Glad to hear you loved it!!

Re Jefferson Airplane, the inane introductions at least put
a date on the music. I have heard several female vocalists
in my time, but Grace's voice is just magic on these tracks.

The BBC banned White Rabbit because in their warped imagination,
they thought it might have been referring to drugs. Can't think why:)
Ditto "Eight Miles High" (The Byrds)

t

davieddy 2009-04-06 14:19

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K3PlFr_fGY&feature=related[/URL]

I hope I've posted this already, but here are the Primitives
or at least their singer Tracy Tracy (NB Lavalamp Coventry
isn't in Essex however she speaks) live 2 years before I saw them.

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HZ7-Kj9Szc[/URL]

Uncwilly 2009-04-06 15:56

Another thread killed by you tube.

davieddy 2009-04-08 17:11

[quote=Uncwilly;168283]Another thread killed by you tube.[/quote]
Well I originated it, and it took off quite well.
My first you tube link was illustrating the art of pronouncing
consonants. Lavalamp described this as "just posh" and Batalov
found a more entertaining you tube link.

If I am required to justify posting the link to "Really Stupid" in this
thread, it would be to note that she pronounces it "stewpid" as
distinct from "stoopid".

You Tube brings life to written discussion of pronunciation and music.
Glad you and Orgasmic Troll have initiated some "discussion" on the latter
thread, instead of bellyaching about the lack of it.

davieddy 2009-04-09 09:45

Back on thack
 
[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T70-HTlKRXo[/URL]

I refuse to comment:smile:
oops I just have.

The title should say "track", but I'll be buggered if I can find out
how to edit it.

Don't know whether buggered is allowed, but I would say
it was more woody than tinny.


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