[QUOTE=cheesehead;141833]Yes, George, we all got the reference.[/QUOTE]

Well, Cheesie, go to the head of the class. Excuse me for adding that Obama blundered. Instead of two news cycles going on the offensive linking McCain to Bush, he's on the defensive against Palin.

Get Fuzzy "Ferrets out the Truth"
 

I love this strip:

"CBS takes down McCain webad, suggests it's 'misleading'"

[URL]http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080910/pl_politico/21051;_ylt=AhVayPQrhcAnGsUqhNLmAL92wPIE[/URL]

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[URL="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/politico/pl_politico/storytext/21051/29042872/SIG=10psi9dkb/*http://www.youtube.com/"]YouTube[/URL] has removed a webad that casts Sarah Palin as the victim of sexism on the request of CBS, whose anchor Katie Couric was featured in the ad.

“One of the great lessons of that campaign is the continued and accepted role of sexism in American life," Couric is quoted in the ad.

In the original clip, which aired months before Palin entered the race, Couric was talking about Hillary Clinton. The ad applies her words to Palin.

Asked about the ad, CBS spokeswoman Leigh Farris said, "CBS News does not endorse any candidate in the Presidential race. Any use of CBS personnel in political advertising that suggests the contrary is misleading."

YouTube's page displaying the ad now tells visitors, "This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by CBS Interactive Inc."

Couric's original commentary can be seen here. McCain still has the ad, "Lipstick," on his website.[/quote]

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"Analysis: McCain ad twists truth"

[URL]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080910/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_adwatch;_ylt=AiL4frlrVPp6N.rCKgWmeKp2wPIE[/URL]

[quote]TITLE: "Fact Check."

LENGTH: 30 seconds.

AIRING: The campaign would not disclose where this ad will air other than to say in "key states" where McCain already is running commercials. That lack of information raises questions about how often this ad will be seen by voters or whether it was simply made to generate news stories and publicity.

SCRIPT: Announcer: "The attacks on Governor Palin have been called 'completely false' ... 'misleading.' And, they've just begun. The Journal reports Obama 'air-dropped a mini-army of 30 lawyers, investigators and opposition researchers' into Alaska to dig dirt on Governor Palin. As Obama drops in the polls, he'll try to destroy her. Obama's 'politics of hope?' Empty words." McCain: "I'm John McCain and I approved this message."

KEY IMAGES: Palin and Obama are shown, as well as what appears to be a pack of wolves running through brush. McCain also is shown.

ANALYSIS:

This ad takes the truth and twists it.

The campaign asserts that "attacks on Governor Palin have been called 'completely false' and 'misleading" — and uses pictures of Obama to suggest that the Democrat has been spreading lies about Palin.

To back up its claim, McCain's team points to comments made by prominent Democrats, including some with links to Obama's campaign, incorrectly aligning Palin with Pat Buchanan and a fringe political group in which some members supported Alaska's secession from the United States.

More prominently, McCain's ad quotes a nonpartisan online organization called [URL="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ap/ap_on_el_pr/storytext/mccain_adwatch/29044330/SIG=10muij34d/*http://factcheck.org"][COLOR=#003399]factcheck.org[/COLOR][/URL].

But the group wasn't referring to Obama when it talked of false and misleading attacks. Rather, it referenced Internet rumors, saying: "We've been flooded for the past few days with queries about dubious Internet postings and mass e-mail messages making claims about McCain's running mate, Gov. Palin. We find that many are completely false or misleading."

At the same time, the McCain ad takes Obama's campaign to task over a Wall Street Journal column that said operatives were going to "dig into her record and background." The ad distorts that by saying "dig dirt."

Obama's campaign has called the Journal report "false," and Obama spokesman Josh Earnest said in a conference call that "there are no Obama or DNC staffers or researchers that were air-dropped into Alaska." He declined to answer whether Democratic lawyers in Alaska had been recruited to do research on Palin in the state.

What McCain doesn't say in the ad is that Republicans also have amassed reams of research on Obama and his running mate Joe Biden after going through their records and backgrounds. This "opposition research" is the norm in modern political campaigns, not that a viewer would know that from the commercial.

It's certainly the case that Obama has criticized Palin, saying that she and McCain don't deserve the label of change agents and are spewing "empty words."

But it remains to be seen whether such criticisms have "just begun" as the ad asserts, and whether Obama really will "try to destroy" Palin as he "drops in polls." Neither of those assertions are drawn from facts; McCain's campaign simply is saying what it believes will happen without offering voters any proof.

McCain's ad claims that Obama is spreading misleading information about Palin, yet it was unveiled one day after the GOP ticket itself released its own commercial that stretched the facts.

That ad said that Obama's only education accomplishment was legislation to teach sex education to kindergartners. Obama voted for the sex education bill in committee in 2003 as an Illinois states senator, but he was not the sponsor of that legislation. The bill also would have required age-appropriate information in schools and would have allowed parents to pull their children from sex education classes if they wished. It never became law.[/quote]

A "nonpartisan online organization called [COLOR=#003399]factcheck.org[/COLOR]" ([URL]http://www.factcheck.org/[/URL]) is mentioned in the second article quoted above. After modest examination, I think it may be impartial and reliable; it has several articles about missing facts, and outdated and out-of-context quotes, in Obama speeches and ads, as well as similar flaws in McCain speeches and ads. It also covers various rumors and allegations about the two made by others on the Internet.

Another fact-checking site, of long history and fine reputation, that I've frequently recommended is the "Urban Legends References Pages" at [URL]http://www.snopes.com/[/URL]. Snopes.com has covered all sorts of political rumors, as just one of its 45 categories, since 1995.

McCain used the "lipstick on a pig" line last year to refer to a Hillary Clinton proposal. Was that sexist?

Or is it that a line can be "sexist" only when a liberal uses it ... because conservatives take it for granted, as part of their worldview, that men and women have unequal rights, and that therefore the term "sexist", when applied to something a conservative says, is a synonym for "in the natural order of things"?

Check which side opposed the Equal Rights Amendment.

Hmmm... Might it be that Republican campaigners were

1) so clumsy with their "sexist" allegation about Obama,

but more generally

2) so willing to jump on the chance to distinguish themselves from Democrats by nominating a female VP (remember -- that consultant I quoted a while back, as predicting that McCain would choose a women if Obama didn't, was indicating that it would be a superficial gender choice-of-opportunity, not because a woman would be McCain's most qualified choice regardless of gender) who so much contradicts what the GOP had previously been saying about experience and other matters,

because their conservative "strict father" worldview interferes with their ability to genuinely understand the way liberals view gender-equality issues?

Hmmm ... I've been assuming that the McCain campaign would make sure to bring in experts on the "strict father"/"nurturant parent" worldview axis. Maybe there aren't enough of those in key positions?

If not, GOP strategists will need to be careful to keep that from being a future source of similar McCain/Palin clumsiness/contradictions.

Upon further thought, the most likely explanation is that this particular speculation of mine is the faulty part. I'm not in the GOP's target audience, so my reaction doesn't matter. Occam's Razor.

[quote=ewmayer;141841]I love this strip:[/quote]

I guess everyone likes a good comic strip.

[quote]
Credit AP

“John McCain says he’s about change, too. And so, I guess his whole angle is, ‘Watch out, George Bush. Except for economic policy, health care policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy and Karl Rove-style politics … we’re really gonna shake things up in Washington,’” [...] Obama said during a rally Tuesday in Lebanon, Va.
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[quote=rogue;141711]That might end up being the issue that tips the scales for me. I consider myself a non-theistic Christian. Her religious beliefs frighten me (as would any other religious zealots)...[/quote]

Will someone please cite a valid, nonpartisan (if it still exists) source that validates "Palin wants creationism added to public school curriculum"? I can't find it.

I'm ready to see the Palin interviews promised by the McCain camp.

[QUOTE=AES;141870]Will someone please cite a valid, nonpartisan (if it still exists) source that validates "Palin wants creationism added to public school curriculum"? I can't find it.

I'm ready to see the Palin interviews promised by the McCain camp.[/QUOTE]I don't have a direct quote from Sarah herself, but I did watch an interview of Cindy McCain done by Katie Couric not that long ago and Cindy said that she agrees with Sarah that it should be taught alongside evolution. I don't doubt that Cindy would know how Sarah thinks on the subject as she said she is also in agreement with Sarah on abortion, except Cindy thinks there are exceptions for rape and incest and Sarah does not.

[quote=Jwb52z;141872]I don't have a direct quote from Sarah herself, but I did watch an interview of Cindy McCain done by Katie Couric not that long ago and Cindy said that she agrees with Sarah that it should be taught alongside evolution. I don't doubt that Cindy would know how Sarah thinks on the subject as she said she is also in agreement with Sarah on abortion, except Cindy thinks there are exceptions for rape and incest and Sarah does not.[/quote]


Yes, but Katie Couric and Cindy McCain are irrelevant IMO.

I'm searching for a valid, relevant quote from Palin, or her signature on legislation which supports the statement: "Palin wants creationism added to public school curriculum"