Mersenne Poster - Power Buy
 

I'm seeing if there is interest in a power buy for [URL="http://www.perfsci.com/souvenirs.htm"]Mersenne posters[/URL]. PerfSci will sell 10+ posters for half price. Please post if you are interested in a M43 poster for $44US +S&H. If you're not interested at that price, what price would you be interested?

If enough people are interested, Xyzzy and I will arrange the purchase and shipping. Please let me know.

Thanks,
Jeff Gilchrist

I'll buy one!!

I kinda would have expected that you'd get a complimentary sample... :ermm:

Alex

I think PerfSci loses enough money on posters without giving out complimentary copies

I might be interested at $44 dollars. But it would suck to have the poster for 6 months and the a new prime found. what would the dimensions of the poster be and is the font 1pt?

The new poster is the same size, 29" x 40" and I believe it is also using 1 point font.

I'll buy one - I have some blank space on my office wall that needs covering!

[QUOTE=akruppa]I kinda would have expected that you'd get a complimentary sample... :ermm: [/QUOTE]Send me a self-addressed stamped envelope and I'll gladly send you a sample consisting of the last 10 decimal digits of the new prime, free of charge.

[QUOTE=ewmayer]Send me a self-addressed stamped envelope and I'll gladly send you a sample consisting of the last 10 decimal digits of the new prime, free of charge.[/QUOTE]
I'm very very tempted to take you up on that offer.

My outlay is minimal, a few pence for two envelopes, a few seconds to write my address on one and your address on the other, less than a pound for a stamp and a quid or so for the international reply coupons.

In return, I give you some hassle! :evil:


Paul

[QUOTE=Prime95]I think PerfSci loses enough money on posters without giving out complimentary copies[/QUOTE]

The prices of the posters are less than their manufacturing costs?

[QUOTE=jinydu]The prices of the posters are less than their manufacturing costs?[/QUOTE]

Yes, sort of. As I understand it, the printer requires a substantial minimum order size. When you only sell a few dozen, you don't recoup the costs.

I would be interested in some sharing if someone else in the UK wants one.

The two or more posters could be shipped as one shipment and then cheaply remailed in the same packaging at local rates. Note that foreign buyers are likely to get hit with some customs duties and handling charges from the courier for dealing this. Therefore I suspect two posters in the same (tube?) will only incur one admin charge on importing.

I think the discounted price is very reasonable for a piece of history. You can't really buy much for that price.

[QUOTE=xilman]a few seconds to write my address on one and your address on the otherl[/QUOTE]

Probably less seconds than writing that posting... :wink:

I would be interested... my M41 poster is getting a little old. :D

Hm, if PerfSci would be willing to ship one of those watchmaker's loupes with the order as well, I'd like one of those. The $3 magnifying glasses from Staples just aren't up to the task of making the numbers readable. :wink:

Okay, do you have any idea if they would be willing to give the same offer with the discovery of the first 10,000,000 digit prime- which if you google is expected to be found May of this year (which doesn't mean that it will, heck, it could be 3 years). If so, a poster of the first 10million digit prime would be worth a lot more historical value than the 9million digit prime. I would definately be interesting in purchasing a poster of the 10million digit prime for half price- w/ or w/out the watchmaker's loupe. Anyway, just food for thought. Let me know what you think.
-Primeinator

I would but I think the shipping to Denmark is pretty high?

[QUOTE=Primeinator]the first 10,000,000 digit prime- which if you google is expected to be found May of this year[/QUOTE]

Really? Could you give a link for that?

a 10,000,000 digit prime by May 2006
 

[QUOTE=jinydu]Really? Could you give a link for that?[/QUOTE]I think it's [URL="http://primes.utm.edu/notes/by_year.html#bevaprime"]there[/URL].
Tony

Yeah, that's the site Tony.

Which has more results being turned in, primes with less than 10M digits, or primes with more?

[QUOTE=dominicanpapi82]Which has more results being turned in, primes with less than 10M digits, or primes with more?[/QUOTE]
Look [url=http://mersenne.org/primenet/]here[/url]. There are far more tests under 10 million both checked out and recently cleared.

Interesting...I myself am currently testing a 10+ million digit number although it takes around 5 to 6 weeks per exponent on my PC. Part of the reason that more people are testing smaller numbers is that for the average computer, it is not the default to trail test 10 million digit primes. *crossing fingers to find the first 10mill prime*

Just to give everyone an update...

Things have been negotiated with PerfSci so as long as we have at least 10 posters we can get them for the 50% off price. We are just finalizing the cost of shipping and handling and hope to start taking orders soon.

Jeff.

[QUOTE=Jeff Gilchrist]Just to give everyone an update...

Things have been negotiated with PerfSci so as long as we have at least 10 posters we can get them for the 50% off price. We are just finalizing the cost of shipping and handling and hope to start taking orders soon.

Jeff.[/QUOTE]

Excellent!

As I posted before, it would make sense to combine shipping by country, in my case for someone else in the UK.

Someone above wrote that 10m dig poster would be historical! Yes, but if GIMPS found the 10m digit, just think how much the earlier ones would be worth to go with it. Or (dare I say it?) the whole collection LOL

One poster for me !
 

[QUOTE=Jeff Gilchrist]Just to give everyone an update...
Things have been negotiated with PerfSci so as long as we have at least 10 posters we can get them for the 50% off price. We are just finalizing the cost of shipping and handling and hope to start taking orders soon.[/QUOTE] Hi Jeff, I'm interested in 1 poster. 44$US + S&H seems OK for me.
No problem for sending it to France ?
How will we have to pay ? and how ?
Thanks for your help !
Tony

Once we get the S&H details completed which we are working on right now, we should be able to ship to France, or whever the USPS ships to.

The payment method will be sending US dollars to a paypal account which you should be able to send either money from your paypal account or with a credit card.

We are ready to take orders for the Mersenne poster power buy. PerfSci is willing to give us a 50% discount on the posters if we purchase 10 or more as a group. The cost below includes the price of the poster, mailing tube, postage, and paypal transaction fees. These are unframed posters. All prices are in [b]US dollars[/b].

2^30402457-1 poster shipped to USA = [b]$53.75[/b]
2^30402457-1 poster shipped to Canada = [b]$62.25[/b]
2^30402457-1 poster shipped to Europe = [b]$68.75[/b]

You can order additional posters of previous Mersenne primes for 50% off as well. You'll avoid paying for the mailing tube and postage again.

2^30402457-1 poster = $45.30
2^25964951-1 poster = $42.75
2^24036583-1 poster = $39.65
2^20996011-1 poster = $36.05
2^13466917-1 poster = $18.00
2^6972593-1 poster = $13.90

Payment can be made using a paypal account or credit card. You must make your purchase by [b]February 28, 2006[/b] as the order will be placed with PerfSci the following day. To purchase your poster, please visit: [url]http://mersenne.org/posters.htm[/url]

Shipping to the US is expected to take 3-4 weeks after the order is placed while Canada and Europe could be 4-6 weeks.

If multiple people in Europe or Canada wish to save on shipping costs, have 1 person in your group place the order and receive the posters. They can then redistribute the posters to the others at non-international shipping rates.

I'll order one in the next week to week and a half.

I've ordered M43, M38 and M39. Need a receipt.

This is just a reminding that everyone has 1 week left to purchase a mersenne prime poster before the order goes in. If you are planning on purchasing one, please do so soon.

[url]http://mersenne.org/posters.htm[/url]

The posters have been ordered!

Thanks !!!

Update:

The posters have been delivered and I will soon begin the process of repackaging them to be mailed. I expect this to take about a week or so.

Thanks in advance for your patience!

I've sent a few emails out to verify addresses. I was able to verify all the US addresses with the USPS, but the foreign addresses are confusing me. (Paypal messed them all up I think.)

So, if you get an email about your poster please respond with any necessary corrections.

12 of the 19 orders were mailed today. The rest will hopefully be mailed Monday.

[quote=Xyzzy]but the foreign addresses are confusing me. (Paypal messed them all up I think.)[/quote]
Might this be of help?

"International Address Formats (Postal/Mailing Addresses) and Other International Mailing Information" at [URL="http://www.bitboost.com/ref/international-address-formats.html"]http://www.bitboost.com/ref/international-address-formats.html[/URL]

including its page of links "Other Guides to International Postal Address Formats" at [URL="http://www.bitboost.com/ref/international-address-formats.html#Other_Guides_to_International_Postal_Address_Formats"]http://www.bitboost.com/ref/international-address-formats.html#Other_Guides_to_International_Postal_Address_Formats[/URL]

or perhaps the "confusion" was of a different nature.

I got all of the foreign addresses verified. Mostly it was a case of Paypal putting everything on one line so I didn't know where to divide up the address. For US addresses this is (usually) obvious. Plus, Paypal messed up all the Unicode characters.

All the posters were mailed earlier this week. Post here or email me to let me know when you receive it.

Hey, I just got mine here in Central Texas. I must say you have great packaging! It took me 3-4 minutes to get it out! Also, I knew the numbers would be small, but serisouly! You can't even begin to read them no matter how close you get! I love it!

Thanks so much xyzzy for doing this for us! you are the best.

Received today. (Very good packaging) :popcorn:

So far we have 2 out of 19 orders accounted for.

:unsure:

Yikes... Maybe e-mail the people directly then?

Okay. I still have not received the posters ...
What do we do ?
Wait a little bit more ?
Tony

[quote=T.Rex]Okay. I still have not received the posters ...
What do we do ?
Wait a little bit more ?[/quote]The post office did tell us that it could take 6-8 weeks.

It would help to know if anyone else in Europe has received their poster.

[quote]The post office did tell us that it could take 6-8 weeks.[/quote]I really wonder why this has to take so long. DHL, EMS etc.. can do it in 1 day (EUR. to US, so maybe 2 days US to EUR because of the time difference) so why can't normal postal service do it in 1 week or so?

[QUOTE=smh]I really wonder why this has to take so long. DHL, EMS etc.. can do it in 1 day (EUR. to US, so maybe 2 days US to EUR because of the time difference) so why can't normal postal service do it in 1 week or so?[/QUOTE]

Most of the courier services have their own planes. I think the normal postal service pays for cargo space on commercial airlines and so might have to wait until there is extra room? Who knows, maybe it was sent via ship instead of by air?

The 6-8 weeks sound like surface mail instead of air mail. I remember having to wait about as long back in the days when I ordered Laser Discs in the US.

Alex

My poster hasn't arived yet (Denmark), but it should be here any day. As far as I can tell, it's been 7 weeks by now since they were shipped.:rolleyes:

Has anybody else received their poster in Europe?

Ernst.

This reminds me of when I lived in the Netherlands, and my mother sent cookies via "surface mail". They were quite stale by time they arrived! Hopefully we won't have discovered any new Mersenne primes before the posters arrive...

[B][COLOR="Red"][U][SIZE="7"]I'VE GOT THE POSTERS ![/SIZE][/U][/COLOR][/B]

I've received them just this afternoon.
With the magnifying glass of the grand-mother of my wife, I can read the numbers ! Unbelievable ! I'll put one of them in my office. I guess my colleagues will think I'm crazy to have such a grey poster.

I'm not sure the numbers of M44 will be readable ...
Why not write on the future poster of M44 the name of all contributors of the GIMPS ? plus the mathematical formulae dealing with the Mersenne numbers and with LLT ?

Thanks to Jeff, George, Michael and Perfectly Scientific !
Tony

Holy cow that is some big type!

Did the tube look okay or was they beat up? Were the posters physically fine?

While all the posters were here it was fun to compare the older ones with the new ones. At some point they are not going to be able to print these any more I suspect, because there has to be a limit to the printing process. Or maybe they'll use microfiche. I actually like the older ones more because at least you know it is a number if you look real close. The new one looks like a gray background. (I don't have a magnifying glass.)

I sure hope everyone else gets theirs soon.

[QUOTE=Xyzzy]Holy cow that is some big type![/QUOTE]That's for all the people who destroyed their eyes trying to read the numbers of M43 on the poster !
[QUOTE]Did the tube look okay or was they beat up ? Were the posters physically fine?[/QUOTE]The tube looked okay. But the posters seem to have received small shocks. One can see them only when close to the poster. (I missed the words to explain) So they are not as perfect as when they were produced, but it's fine. Probably putting some plastic paper with bubbles around the poster (like the one used for glasses) would help.
[QUOTE]While all the posters were here it was fun to compare the older ones with the new ones. At some point they are not going to be able to print these any more I suspect, because there has to be a limit to the printing process. Or maybe they'll use microfiche. I actually like the older ones more because at least you know it is a number if you look real close. The new one looks like a gray background. (I don't have a magnifying glass.)[/QUOTE]Yes. I agree. They probably will have to change the way they make the poster or to change the image.
[QUOTE]I sure hope everyone else gets theirs soon.[/QUOTE]I hope so too !
Tony

[QUOTE=T.Rex]
Yes. I agree. They probably will have to change the way they make the poster or to change the image.
[/QUOTE]

Maybe they should offer them as wallpaper sets...

Alex

and also as car painting!

[QUOTE=T.Rex]I've received them just this afternoon.
With the magnifying glass of the grand-mother of my wife, I can read the numbers ! Unbelievable ! I'll put one of them in my office. I guess my colleagues will think I'm crazy to have such a grey poster.[/QUOTE]

Maybe the delivery of the posters were delayed because the French government was trying to analyse all the numbers on the posters to see if it was secret communication from a "terrorist group" and it took them a while... :shock:

Glad they finally made it ok.

It's been almost a month since my last post, and I'm still waiting for my poster.....:unsure:

Ernst.

I wish there was a way to track international shipments. All I have is a receipt that it was sent out. Yours was mailed 3/28. I really don't know what to do. My role was to package and mail them. Maybe Jeff or George knows what to do.

:down:

That is a good question, not sure when you can consider an international shipment to be truely lost.

Maybe contact your local post office to inquire if they got any mailing tube packages sent from North Carolina? Or find out if there is a way to confirm if the package was received at customs?

I got the button from Xyzzy three months after he posted it. So I would wait another few weeks.

Ernst got his poster a few days ago but it looks like they dropped it from the airplane directly to his house, instead of delivering it the usual way.

We've sent out a replacement poster (first class) so hopefully this will have a happy ending.

Garo-

Was the money still in the envelope?

[QUOTE=Xyzzy]Ernst got his poster a few days ago but it looks like they dropped it from the airplane directly to his house, instead of delivering it the usual way.[/QUOTE]

Wow, with the overkill and careful the packaging you did, that is very surprising. They must have dropped it from high altitude then... :alien:

Jeff.

It is possible that the extreme heat of re-entry may have melted the protective plastic structural wrapping.