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OmbooHankvald 2005-10-21 20:38

Dark times may be coming...?
 
This is not to spark paranoia of any sort, but when you look at the [URL=http://wiki.seventeenorbust.com/index.php/Special:Recentchanges]SoB wiki[/URL] and the [URL=http://www.distributedcomputing.info/wiki/index.php/Special:Recentchanges]DC.info wiki[/URL] you'll notice that both of these are troubled by spammers and vandals. :censored: :glare:

I fear that sooner or later someone may try the same tricks on the mersennewiki. :evil:

Therefore I think we (mainly the SysOps) should start preparing ourselves for eventual vandals heading this way...

And another thing - Since there's no contents in the mersennewiki disclaimer I'll ask here: What policy should we have against vandalism?
I find the Wikipedia policy a little too "polite" (3 warnings, a 8-hour ban, that kind of stuff)..

We may want to discuss this issue over before anyone tries anything...

delta_t 2005-10-22 04:30

Are these sites being hit by bots mainly, or just individuals wrecking havoc?

OmbooHankvald 2005-10-22 06:31

I think it looks like bots...

fetofs 2005-10-22 13:08

[QUOTE=OmbooHankvald]1) you'll notice that both of these are troubled by spammers and vandals. :censored: :glare:

I fear that sooner or later someone may try the same tricks on the mersennewiki. :evil:

2)Therefore I think we (mainly the SysOps) should start preparing ourselves for eventual vandals heading this way...

3)And another thing - Since there's no contents in the mersennewiki disclaimer I'll ask here: What policy should we have against vandalism?
I find the Wikipedia policy a little too "polite" (3 warnings, a 8-hour ban, that kind of stuff)..

[/QUOTE]

1) :censored:

2) Could Xyzzy add something like image letters to avoid automatic sign ups? That way, we could work together to ban the users... Also, there should be a restriction on editing (only registered users)

3)After that, I think one warning is too polite, depending on what kind of spamming you're talking about. If someone was testing the wiki and messed up, indicaing the sandbox and reverting would be nice. If the spam is just clear deliberate spam, like those above, I would ban directly without asking.

P.S: Wonder why they haven't attacked mersennewiki yet?

alpertron 2005-10-22 16:30

The user creation process should have the now common anti-spam procedure, which consist in an image with letters that cannot be OCRed. Then the user has to type the letters as shown.

With this method, bots cannot get new user accounts, thus decreasing a lot the spam.

OmbooHankvald 2005-10-22 18:33

[QUOTE=fetofs]
2) Could Xyzzy add something like image letters to avoid automatic sign ups? [/QUOTE]
From what I know, I don't think that is possible on a MediaWiki. But I might be wrong

[QUOTE=fetofs]
Also, there should be a restriction on editing (only registered users)
[/QUOTE]
Again I'm not sure if this is possible and I also think that this issue should be discussed among the community because it might be a huge jump in complicatedness for many n00b-users. But then again: I might be wrong

BTW: Who the **** would try that way of advertising? Do they really believe that people are going to buy stuff from them now?
If I learn how to take down websites jocelyn.ddo.jp and joia.com will definately be my first targets! :furious:

cheesehead 2005-10-23 05:32

[QUOTE=fetofs]Also, there should be a restriction on editing (only registered users)[/QUOTE]I agree, and that would have the added benefit (to me, at least) of preventing me from editing until I remember to log in !

Xyzzy 2005-10-23 14:50

I think I have it set to allow only logged in users to edit pages now... Please test it...

Sometime today I will upgrade the software to the newest current version...

OmbooHankvald 2005-10-23 16:17

[QUOTE=Xyzzy]
Sometime today I will upgrade the software to the newest current version...[/QUOTE]

I guess that is now, because I can't login... :confused:

Xyzzy 2005-10-23 17:01

It should be up now... The upgrade was a lot more complex than I expected... We jumped from 1.4.9 to 1.5 which is apparently a big jump...

Some of the math images are messed up... I think if you edit the page and resave it the page will get fixed... I'm not sure really...

Math image caching is disabled right now...

I think image uploads are working...

I'm working on setting it so only registered users can edit...

Let me know what is broken...

The good news is this new version fixes a lot of security holes...

cheesehead 2005-10-24 06:26

I logged out, then tried to edit a page. It immediately told me I had to log in.

This is good.


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