Proofreading my FAQ?
 

Hi. I've tried to write a guide to how to operate PSP, S/R B5 and 321 from Mersenneforum.

I was wondering if any of you would bother proofreading it? I'm not an expert so I've probably screwed up somewhere. :confused:
Also, any suggestions would be great!
It can be found [URL=http://www.geocities.com/omboohankvald/indexmersenne.html]here[/URL]

To be honest, I think ldautch's version was a bit outdated (it linked to LLR 2.0).

Thanks in advance
OH

looks good and is no too short! good work

Thanks! If it's useful, will you consider maybe linking to it in the "getting started" thread? I would really appreciate it! :smile:

How about adding instructions for LLRnet?

Citrix

[QUOTE=Citrix]How about adding instructions for LLRnet?

Citrix[/QUOTE]

Great idea (I forgot about it). Coming up probably in a day or two.

Done. Is it ok or have I missed something?

OmbooHankvald,

Good work!

I'm still reading what you have done but I have a doubt in the [url="http://www.geocities.com/omboohankvald/proth_sieve.html"][color=red]Sieving a range with Mikael Klasson’s proth_sieve[/color][/url] section. In point 4 you have the link for sob.dat. That one is for SOB project but I usually use [url="http://www.ldausch.de/test/sob.zip"]this one[/url] for PSP project.
My doubt is: are both the same file ( I really dont know)?If not you should add both links.

Cheers,

Carlos

That's right, the sob.dat are different.

btw.:
Omboo, could you change the coloring a bit? Esp. the links are not that easy to read on the black background.
But concerning the contents, I really like your manual. :smile:

Thanks both of you!

I've tried fixing it. Unfortunately I suck at colouring, but I've tried something a little more simple.
Better?

Thanks for the very good job you did with your guide text. :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

Lars

OmbooHankvald,

Sorry but one more thing I think you should add to your great guide.
I use this [url="http://81.233.34.19/rieselsieve.php"]software[/url] to [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=2]monitor and control my sieve range. It also estimates the crunching time.

Cheers,

Carlos
[/size][/font]

Lars,
what version of llrnet does llrnet_windows linked on ldausch.de contain?

Citrix

It is still the old version. I did not find the time till now to create a new package with the new llrnet client and a modified config file.

If anybody has the time to create these files please mail them to me or tell me a place where i can download them and i will change them on my server.

@Citrix:
Did the two mails from the last two days reach you or is there a mail problem on my side again?


Lars

[QUOTE=em99010pepe]OmbooHankvald,

Sorry but one more thing I think you should add to your great guide.
I use this [url="http://81.233.34.19/rieselsieve.php"]software[/url] to [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=2]monitor and control my sieve range. It also estimates the crunching time.

Cheers,

Carlos
[/size][/font][/QUOTE]

Isn't rieselator only to RieselSieve? It asks for RieselStatus.dat. Do you mean [URL=http://81.233.34.19/sob.php]this?[/URL] Can both be used for both Riesel and Sierpinski? Is there any difference at all?

@Ltd: I think [URL=http://rieselsieve.com/dload.php]RieselSieve[/URL] has a version of LLRNET. I don't know if it's newer than yours, but I post this anyway.

Thanks for all the positive response :w00t: , I'll keep improving it!

The rieselsieve one is the newest one available. I did not yet find the time to look what configs have to be modified to make it a work for PSP. If you have such a version ready please send it to me. ( Then i don't have to find everything out myself :wink: )

for the FAQ we have to thank you. Specialy for not only to all this work for one project but doing it for several projects!!!!!!

Thanks,

Lars

[QUOTE=OmbooHankvald]Isn't rieselator only to RieselSieve? It asks for RieselStatus.dat. Do you mean [url="http://81.233.34.19/sob.php"]this?[/url] Can both be used for both Riesel and Sierpinski? Is there any difference at all?

Thanks for all the positive response :w00t: , I'll keep improving it![/QUOTE]

You can also use rieselator on PSP. There's no difference at all. You just have to setup it like this:


[b]rieselator.ini[/b] file

[Settings]
Machines=1
LaunchCopyNewURL=1
CopyNewURL=
SpeedAvgIntervals=5
Username=em99010pepe
Password=
Login=1
[Machine 0]
Name=AMD 64 3000+
FactorPath=C:\DC\PSP\sieve\fact.txt (path to your fact.txt file)
StatusPath=C:\DC\PSP\sieve\SoBStatus.dat (path to your SoBStatus.dat file)
LastOldFactor=


Cheers,

Carlos

EDIT: There's one difference. You cannot send the factors automatically to PSP.

[QUOTE=ltd]The rieselsieve one is the newest one available. I did not yet find the time to look what configs have to be modified to make it a work for PSP. If you have such a version ready please send it to me. ( Then i don't have to find everything out myself :wink: )

for the FAQ we have to thank you. Specialy for not only to all this work for one project but doing it for several projects!!!!!!

Thanks,

Lars[/QUOTE]

Well, I could get on RieselSieve using your version just by editing the server and port so maybe it'll work the other way around too? (I can't check it now because the server is down).

@pepe: I'm going to bed now, I'll look at your post tomorrow.

OH

I will give it i try next week.

Lars

There is a sobadministrator software for +1 projects.

[QUOTE=ltd]
for the FAQ we have to thank you. Specialy for not only to all this work for one project but doing it for several projects!!!!!!

Thanks,

Lars[/QUOTE]

No problem :smile: I'm still waiting for feedback from the S/R Base 5 team and I haven't contacted 321 yet.
I'm also working a bit on an LMH guidebut that's not a priority right now

OH

Little update
 

I've tried adding some info about Rieselator and Sobistrator.

I'll wait to see what happens before changing my guide to LLRNET

@Lars: It wasn't much of a change, but I've placed my (simple) guess of a config-file [URL=http://geocities.com/omboohankvald/llr-clientconfig.txt]here[/URL] when footmaster comes around we can try if it works. All the other stuff in the file is up to the individual user, so I've only changed the necessary (I think).

OH

Go [url="http://www.geocities.com/omboohankvald/proth_sieve.html"]here[/url].

You say:

[quote]
[b][color=red]How to use Rieselator/Sobistrator:[/color][/b]

I’m assuming you’re now happily running proth_sieve, but maybe you want to know how long it takes to complete your range? You can use Rieselator for that.

Rieselator is a helpful tool, which allows you to monitor proth_sieve at multiple computers at once and see how long it takes to finish a range. [b]There is also a Sobistrator available to those who are testing k*b^n+1 instead of –1[/b]:[/quote]

Look what is in bold. In my opinion sobistrator/rieselator are the same software and are independent of the test made. The dat file is the one who gives the format of the number to test.

Cheers,

Carlos

[QUOTE=em99010pepe]The dat file is the one who gives the format of the number to test.

Cheers,

Carlos[/QUOTE]

Does that mean that if Sob.dat is in the proth_sieve directory, then rieselator automatically turns itself to sobistrator?

Does that mean that I can enter the SobStatus into Rieselator without having to edit the ini file? Also: If they are the same, then what was the point in hosting both? :unsure: I'm a bit confused here...

OH

[QUOTE=OmbooHankvald]Does that mean that if Sob.dat is in the proth_sieve directory, then rieselator automatically turns itself to sobistrator?

Does that mean that I can enter the SobStatus into Rieselator without having to edit the ini file? Also: If they are the same, then what was the point in hosting both? :unsure: I'm a bit confused here...
[/QUOTE]

Just tested the sobistrator.exe and it's equal to rieselator.exe. Only the version is different, 1.19 to rieselator.exe and 1.20 to sobistrator.exe.

You have to edit the ini file because Rieselator asks for the RieselStatus.

If you are confused just post Sobistrator in your guide. Don't need to edit the ini file.

What is wrong in your text is that text in bold. Someone please correct me if I am wrong. I'm getting sleepy.

Carlos

[QUOTE=em99010pepe]
What is wrong in your text is that text in bold. Someone please correct me if I am wrong. I'm getting sleepy.

Carlos[/QUOTE]

I guess you are... Because I haven't got a clue what you mean :confused:

Anyway, I'm sleepy too so I guess I'll try to solve the problem tomorrow.

Good night everybody! :sleep:

OH

Short desciptions
 

I've tried adding short descriptions of the projects [URL=http://www.geocities.com/omboohankvald/What.html]here[/URL] and once again I would ask if any of you would make sure I'm not writing something wrong :redface: . It's nothing big 'cause I'm focusing on making a site whereto people can say "look [URL=http://www.geocities.com/omboohankvald/indexmersenne.html]here[/URL] if you are n00b".

Thanks again

OH

Note: I'm posting this in several of the forums

[QUOTE=OmbooHankvald]I've tried adding short descriptions of the projects [URL=http://www.geocities.com/omboohankvald/What.html]here[/URL] and once again I would ask if any of you would make sure I'm not writing something wrong :redface: . It's nothing big 'cause I'm focusing on making a site whereto people can say "look [URL=http://www.geocities.com/omboohankvald/indexmersenne.html]here[/URL] if you are n00b".

Thanks again

OH

Note: I'm posting this in several of the forums[/QUOTE]

Forget the above. People can look at Distributedcomputing.info if they want info

I actually liked your guide. It was short and high yield for lazy people. Could you leave it there.

Thanks,
Citrix

[QUOTE=Citrix]I actually liked your guide. It was short and high yield for lazy people. Could you leave it there.

Thanks,
Citrix[/QUOTE]

Yes of course! :smile:
Actually it wasn't the guide I would remove, but the short desciptions of what the projects were about.
The guides stay and (hopefully) gets expanded.

OH

Update
 

Short update:

* Fixed reservation link to new sieve thread
+ Added a bit about how to use Sobistrator to submit factors to PSP

OH

This thread is hereby named "Official Discussion Thread Regarding Omboo Hankvalds Guides" (O.D.T.R.O.H.G.)

Discuss all my guides here!

Announcing thread here: [url]http://mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?p=59044[/url]

[QUOTE=OmbooHankvald]For RieselSieve:
you have to download rieselator instead[/QUOTE]

But the links are exactly the same... Or this is not needed or you should change the hyperlinks on your page...

[QUOTE=OmbooHankvald]There is also a Rieselator available to those who are testing k*b^n+1 instead of –1[/QUOTE]

Shouldn't it be the inverse??? Sob tests for k*b^n+1 and rieselsieve tests for k*b^n-1... Correct me if I'm wrong. :unsure:

lol, I must have been really sleepy. It's fixed. Apparently I had already fixed it but forgot to upload the new page
Thanks!

For some reason it won't change that damn link! What is wrong?????

Change [url]www dot footmaster dot co dot uk[/url] to pspnet.no-ip.org

on page:- [url]http://www.geocities.com/omboohankvald/LLRNET.html[/url]


We are using a new pointing address. Even thought both addresses point to the same server.

Citrix

[url]http://www.geocities.com/omboohankvald/proth_sieve.html[/url] is missing

Thanks Citrix, I don't know what happened to proth_sieve but it should be up now.

About LLRNET. I'll change it tomorrow.

[QUOTE=OmbooHankvald]For some reason it won't change that damn link! What is wrong?????[/QUOTE]

It's changed now :smile:

Contributions welcome
 

I've opened for outside contributions to the site. Please come with suggestions whether it's another colour on the website, a new projects guide, something on theories or a private server :razz:

I'm hoping that there someday may be some kind of centralized guide-database maybe similar to the one Kirk Pearson has on projects (not on geocities of course, but right now geocities will have to do...)

OH

Are the links broken?
[url]http://www.geocities.com/omboohankvald/Reporting.html[/url]
[url]http://www.geocities.com/omboohankvald/Reservation.html[/url]

They doesn't seem to be there...

BTW: I was going to comment about your start page but you seem to have updated it in the moment of the post :smile:

Proofread2:Oh, and could you get the subtitles to the pictures into the line below it? The way you put it seems pretty confusing...

Proofread3:[quote="OmbooHankvald"]Test the NewPGen file using PRP[/quote]

In the Sierpinski/Riesel base 5, shouldn't we use LLR?

[QUOTE=fetofs]Are the links broken?
[url]http://www.geocities.com/omboohankvald/Reporting.html[/url]
[url]http://www.geocities.com/omboohankvald/Reservation.html[/url][/QUOTE]

I reorganised thepage long ago and divided those two pages into several project pages. Where does it still link to them?

[QUOTE=fetofs]
Proofread2:Oh, and could you get the subtitles to the pictures into the line below it? The way you put it seems pretty confusing...[/QUOTE]
O.K. I've done that. Thanks!

[QUOTE=fetofs]
Proofread3:
In the Sierpinski/Riesel base 5, shouldn't we use LLR?[/QUOTE]
Well, Jean Penné somewhere said that LLR should be used or +1 numbers and PRP on -1 numbers. However, I've changed it now :smile:


It's really nice to have people like you around fetofs!

Sorry about the double post.... :blush:

Proofread4: In the page about factoring for SoB with Prime95, you should tell people to add "results.txt=fact.txt". That way P95 won't overwrite the results file every time you complete a range, having to download the large file again.

[quote="OmbooHankvald"]Where does it still link to them?[/quote]

In the program explanation pages (NewPGen, proth_sieve, LLR, LLRNET) and in the "checking for SSE2" page.

Thank you again fetofs! I've corrected that now. Those were some of my oldest guides and apparently I haven't bothered fixing them :blush:

I've mentioned you among the contributors on the index-page. If you want your real name there (or want yourself removed) just tell me.

Just something I noticed when writing for the mersennewiki: In your proth_sieve guide, it seems like the link to the sob.dat is pointing to a n1-20m dat. Although, the [URL=http://www.free-dc.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3501]sieving thread[/URL] on SoB says that from now on, you must use a 991-50m dat. It even points to ranges that have been redone with it to check for high-n factors, so please link to the other dat (I think the links change from time to time, as my current link has a date on it)
[url]http://www.teamprimerib.com/vjs/SoB.dat_20050718.zip[/url]

Guide needed!
 

OH,
Could you write a guide on how to create a dat for proth_sieve? Several people have asked me on how to do this in the past. It would be easier for me to just point them to your website.

Thanks,
Citrix