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moo 2005-03-26 19:41

doesnt worry bout his pent 4 its only 1.8 ghz and stays in range of 99 to 109 degrees

dsouza123 2005-03-26 19:56

moo

I hope those temps are in degrees fahrenheit. :grin:

moo 2005-03-26 20:32

o they are ;)

thermalMan 2005-03-26 22:15

My HSF is a Slient Boost from Thermaltake.
My PSU is a 400W from Antec.

The temperature mentionned are at idle. Using Prime95, I've seen 62C on MM5...

My system was stable with my 2100+ (and waaayyy cooler) but seems rather finiky with my new 3000+. (Premiere crashed, Firefox crashed (seems ok with version 1.0.1 had 1.0.2)...

dsouza123 2005-03-26 22:49

Can you try with the case/panels off ?
Should lower the temp significantly.

It is how I run my PC, front and both side panels removed.
Makes a big difference in the summer (stable or not),
and much cooler in the winter.

That combined with underclocking CPU/memory will let you
find stable operating parameters.

Kosmaj 2005-03-27 01:50

Your PSU is more than adequate :cool:
But I'm not sure about the heat-sink. [URL=http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1551&page=5]FrostyTech says[/URL] it's good, but as you can see from the list there are better. If you want to run GIMPS 24/7 I'll suggest you forget about the silence and go for sheer performance. As they say in the [URL=http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1274]review[/URL] for Thremalright AX7
[QUOTE]noise levels are enough to wake the dead, but for those of us who really the performance it is the only way to go. [/QUOTE] I see you are not overclocking but maybe the air-flow in your case is poor. Also check the contact between the CPU and the heat-sink.

To be certain about the memory, run memtest86+ the first night, Windows Memory Diagnostics the second night, and if possible, GIMPS memory test the 3rd.

thermalMan 2005-03-27 04:50

Here's a pic of my case layout. I can't see how I could make this better with everything that's in there...
[URL=http://www.dstudios.ca/temp/case.jpg]Case layout picture[/URL]

I'm thinking of possibly going with a better heatsink fan to replace the one on my Silent Boost. The heatsink is copper, so, maybe the fan would give me better results? Copper is copper no?

I could start the tests tomorrow morning, I have relatives in town and they sleep in my computer room. Will report back, ASAP...

Kosmaj 2005-03-27 06:57

It's so neat inside your case :geek:

Try also what [B]dsouza[/B] said, to run with a case panel facing cpu removed. Then direct an external (room) fan to the cpu/mobo and try to run GIMPS. If there are no errors then your problem is cpu overheat. Otherwise it's something else. But you have to fix the problem, it's not good to run without the side panel all the time (mobo/chipset temps go up, not to mention troubles if you have children).

Try also the following: (1) if you have used the heatsink for a while, check for dust on heatsink fins, if there is some, remove the fan and vacuum the dust. I have [URL=http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1128&page=1]Coolermaster HHC-001[/URL] and that's what I do once every 3-4 months. The cpu temp goes down 2-3C after cleaning. (2) Try to move the HDD from behind the front case fan (2nd from the bottom) to the slot right under the top HDD to improve the air flow.

And good luck!

moo 2005-03-27 08:41

insted of moveing case fan to clean buy can o compressed air have vacum in case shoot it was short blasts and vacum up dust before it settles ;)

thermalMan 2005-03-28 19:38

Kosmaj and Dsouza,

I tried Memtest for 6 hours, no problem. I tried MS Memory Diagnostics for 6 hours, no problem.

I removed the front panel of my case, loaded Prime95 and ran it. I still got the same "Hardware Error" as usual, and in the same time too <2 min. My temps were 5C less though.

This computer has been thouroughly cleaned before doing any of the testing in this thread.

I'm running out of :censored: patience and tests! LOL!

Thanks for all the help!

moo 2005-03-28 22:50

have u underclock proc yet.... also what os


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