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Xyzzy 2004-12-21 14:52

44 curves using B1=43e6 & B2=178426462988...

xilman 2004-12-21 15:43

[QUOTE=Xyzzy][QUOTE=R.D.Silverman]There are quite a few other 2^n-1 and 2^n+1 whose primitive parts
(i.e. what is left after algebraic factors are removed) have no known factors.
815-, 841-, 1037-, 1115-, 1127-, 1165-, 1197-, 923+, 925+, 1019+, 1068+,1085+, 1123+, 1157+ are all "virgin". 2,1402L C211 is a nice target....
etc.[/QUOTE]Can someone explain how to set these up to work on?[/QUOTE]
Yes. Next question. :smile:

There are two easy ways. One is to use your favourite multiprecision calculator to evaluate 2^815-1, .... 2^1157+1 and then divide by the algebraic factors. Remember that 2^(p*q)-1 is divisible by 2^p-1, and that 2^(p*q)+1 is divisible by 2^p+1 if q is odd.

Alternatvely, cut and paste the table below.

[CODE]
2,815-.c195 602830863541306826308201254740270750540731095667474187448714011010899950408657957299250392174354769529862228623065037288911156431857765333506478693299526142358853365961098168445571416785159158751
2,841-.c245 27312187167948796049898887842782596405655381943670578373120353781997447000328700858938482409418918448758778194857586271196003004729048486053340769161697167767956404785889687728602979284674332324623675660860406658739006337124213538943374972682241
2,1037-.c289 4872694181406339617512781250710256288128420426749870494701352170485888238522036701839697408990043865362740060996930806408048841117542674271031589079075642908938171217283398153697602454775549091739003927335892645964656077739143953748851155087308230066486278985637829660170144978240247037951
2,1115-.c268 1065109941805776706355523759912331867981547028298632101064436913360308656498407496399017819941266937523206800095802628239056884846587941547451549521885921509423567124384299434378982375640732640342441073140571687709824180713260154230491879744587941443178660742143376351
2,1127-.c279 140705069435148525567636794159609611347854019506390464476654276286746608325201338550301316762601954497468217583977222150451662496126126604383711679265346749017108297138651585611263081301742648042942196831146630648766137079515645444852436139949372633202443315937445476080147234689
2,1165-.c280 1171100765875270179244945893830251827220309508615324517275525972873567260653972118554575465278185761068890021942061598151662698281831055124931605151125741474177866524802658705832803112179355884092552586272774369940898064545096268503852549943711820691220522093797316159763865631711
2,1197-.c196 1332232025087645170119859737073759127933226759951894602505743546481260093614963044321335112417006916573640555337691787675690266908730720037130520599211458555834864353500676718522848267593284845641
[/CODE]

This includes all the virgins from the 2- table. If I include the 2+ virgins the result is too large for a single posting, so the next posting will contain those.

Paul

xilman 2004-12-21 15:46

[QUOTE=xilman]Yes. Next question. :smile:

There are two easy ways. One is to use your favourite multiprecision calculator to evaluate 2^815-1, .... 2^1157+1 and then divide by the algebraic factors. Remember that 2^(p*q)-1 is divisible by 2^p-1, and that 2^(p*q)+1 is divisible by 2^p+1 if q is odd.

Alternatvely, cut and paste the table below.[/QUOTE]

[CODE]
2,923+.c254 10995996819926327689444127628643317479915892830687547605753718258985985365169949334208154451621222813006443587832314398853484779559589894223323859273755603846275425925559421752044737286641107849112111651180512256706878237744106414021765010544295657054211
2,925+.c217 5688016226807831064044758914315660452874822911732021084198059235416884717188698621609682118091029853096510590721423450325168014323277731989012600970545984976786513017985287740035850980703007762825496957935313661984801
2,1068+.c212 89400484036274431060826118507373473087527766939268548251057919414811314954360344594927710093746897494712539807680475337709339632382637183775134100914650610752799489424300366436219855142184520202306299216040751121
2,1085+.c217 3821636017948500407697690663684462998234007973705628411526100765949914764386534161183940224846632407828739330608373076013417236423479598386598788930958485093306529005046501968492447393192262332511147746647357230417291
2,1123+.c338 37980779690573035101115948035819907243758324374408025946589433632120302441276584020373016557443869481680197335080249263932592551133928293145158400690934698833813563592409480396105462807550998031852178779829186649426891020235191843527709526417342339235606194765539693255986274905202073354344222513691787444963148629397672007024709208812203
2,1157+.c319 1158013624286608719061786813392065811146261418793264907435693533152945186118808170972135908382634034495585978239782105986349079168451297370382941457567534173975418831345424219848352948601543798604933393081041724330010516455576225361475563095059916348649097530045173259963129271976994043105417450058183123752721437401091
2,1334L.c186 679566226770210111797681899550236444470155667919651357429728394366764262328816789201836919101103478149627726969288433266378217350464040820343015369028888542697210212117724725099496615941
2,1402L.c211 2104054360619349402896395953152051466220135921129269543799312361227492861718832328845466614511035380490792270143024891056603128571715400710474807282265085027532594432915623070126230109230501079487273250419690701
2,1418L.c213 538637916318553447141477364006925175352354795809093003212623964474238172600021076184439453314825057405643041332481507157355515553165091582227867134498821922036222983354980650548419402504582998129840524173350063309
2,1462L.c203 48797867498176775698553247245326515753524449915182729588883260124921756577767443656076960030592714705525061344153736293419672056926297272220259413996605798831901090548254109890111687881514590637681931781
2,1466L.c220 9036844667866295990237148295054809162724332517925048078986886178760620257155835199698796547184735990306873169534386098930984419336840147754597941982340754288525558802638042714607871589042675136045329191682191699552816333
2,1550L.c181 5317864971021736801183422893677150136246688568051938985453236307990615753660954041867896743247886813429243321537869222602883041953647982507476977422233138986187202152189869202677801
2,1618L.c244 3414023389634485388328884116849283992138116261025744978122883999623187065762627620618973286846235796860380114223837819108212434450810333846277048885289288603622170095340640301522514982977548056756691170033425288909661252389239046677947985428481
2,1670M.c200 29871239699130136810657627487404279399026326454457653637778804339635874579975445185419319635358338855117977893158203051696738158906521060025803975768175165531102861216131735642112757108274681464462361
2,1678M.c252 733155940312959006833120868702075865362476522807568704753701112379163238537034346479239277205110486410991603436006392833904560176918128076503044928073073578731165409713384114157204950278154945465097204996987178330385014387093829287274075849060864806093
2,1682L.c245 27310520164340575896819782418369221996914434371611942990336887348670021077282736919035549588832507423654322214863205336597592049834076426346779564581139203180918838534456227266895668510110859615256053117564877650294344920498014189148117965701121
2,1690M.c188 70713587828117394618315337384956770534705867327713946090352134914403742921667468570065681043285086756890807172993266118543809144977895482200742450823119798565808913099073639207061180915841
2,1870M.c193 1387312376442199554837407296900851895433665230080527991970122352522509034451214731923682531140863318446032709537489490131868927679840546823810213417373743367475664367890147487119660449174892741
2,1954M.c294 255467559620444135892015707268715336456633761335738565312326047031963122159227400420474619583057369739435833196056639391228472062514379988574613990500125473353318330631214522925065058053534912168272675511279294936784409793399470910097118428062927498927189222912134957824094596948604448634883277
2,2006L.c280 5650404344140927525090938348810735372209302534809730339700568380403845439114686673925864369505751922891517631159048540006914859526232881253096236140352637968644412172942345227745191966062199108421235944250206505226830937636836190482036206918645400701327438747420255233546688001541
2,2038M.c307 5617791046444737211654078721215702292556178059194708039794690036179146118921905097897139916325235500660003558745981042426837180275450519452901482207483569738757229155176321308390693914000472311074363990351000861166553139264209483432803985172975392887211625966857868441511064874048194121168591493713008525313
2,2042L.c307 4494232837155789769323262976972561834044942447355766431835752028943316895137524078317711933060188400528002846996784833941469744220360415562321185765986851768663404341361927174505055669446539605049745014562787371864809394882158564682150147576090864238740993763928838807393595773073711712963889264875704995021
2,2078M.c313 1178136172863367353289477449835495249423877392919630035507151379875316864158931111986518276980130028068012778323125163508752644628902160777169124921438857622208619432362259415804964306286865724148191254449114834746104050230353883079793042173496329447619189404552135903293404074694619468747033372499228144417164493
2,2086M.c268 1168793210477135500779450923090506019501208266720651787577663896235599044214057618183782437102335192167176461283438602300732840729072284724150340059353315291567251132788049270007194633544145934836500383733974371979958837500273874327842573810060351352837216160871858321
2,2094M.c211 1315033975387093376810247470720032166387584950705793519792951506812060758429476598179562372224879513953190164119060222948356130654242018989729477266793994171469056329700727934785562524206713351174690302265917441
2,2158L.c296 80482259282671858494160494524199119506690551324974973129999901802689198496660250932395978160570905631672811531300713011602102906750555742458789978343571189210762422876159980622291469763616896422390357819473438904941255792816125659356814123226204823972911665128212874957309875049259964981225463681
2,2226L.c189 199546915920567652454514958135524389234026500380271227300914581456913453558154156713431692979902455428306406737619474275280196814036357912616369571980352388218091425796442848491706390814141
2,2334M.c235 1589778526515925949592554996185602616583051281527497329806452603521453290311569420248200520321182987046669346464880220366343677939424176887763834372909489468614355554224703809349951351681729469832246883632253236298020275879785676144641
2,2342M.c353 32071917236569804359352919638254932097308197515921089652428844601662346518117460644612991320408966715049689484819698310994701324572445193352162111332134748519695370405271632375234088343905559743141758526296333400211709595110939334237855436551088984886395480329105694887439302576740029695027219191950507806604876678502389187843490165291241779494610010113
2,2398M.c326 33412176505662240354368370484069473244654711288811637581405137208186082238623525098056503449806874342844508249256718089773724941389261740488336405770071096644245897508313844602682750195879301126198337410222373556839158330275883473775399657190683164324934266103516840757540497104112120099814990971770400084063025572202273581381
[/CODE]

This includes all the virgins from the 2+table, including some that Bob didn't mention.

Paul[/QUOTE]

garo 2004-12-21 23:30

Hey Paul,
Now that there is on the 2LM tables here we better get our ECM work tables up eh? :razz:

thomasn 2004-12-23 10:03

[Wed Dec 22 14:19:23 2004]
M1061 completed 100 ECM curves, B1=44000000, B2=4290000000

With Xyzzy's 44 (counts as 93) curves and the 100 above,
we now only need 78 more curves until we have done M1061 to 50 digits. I will do 50 of them.

If you have any unreported curves now is the time to post them! :grin:

Thomas
:coffee:

Xyzzy 2004-12-26 00:53

[QUOTE=xilman][CODE]
2,923+.c254 10995996819926327689444127628643317479915892830687547605753718258985985365169949334208154451621222813006443587832314398853484779559589894223323859273755603846275425925559421752044737286641107849112111651180512256706878237744106414021765010544295657054211
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2,2158L.c296 80482259282671858494160494524199119506690551324974973129999901802689198496660250932395978160570905631672811531300713011602102906750555742458789978343571189210762422876159980622291469763616896422390357819473438904941255792816125659356814123226204823972911665128212874957309875049259964981225463681
2,2226L.c189 199546915920567652454514958135524389234026500380271227300914581456913453558154156713431692979902455428306406737619474275280196814036357912616369571980352388218091425796442848491706390814141
2,2334M.c235 1589778526515925949592554996185602616583051281527497329806452603521453290311569420248200520321182987046669346464880220366343677939424176887763834372909489468614355554224703809349951351681729469832246883632253236298020275879785676144641
2,2342M.c353 32071917236569804359352919638254932097308197515921089652428844601662346518117460644612991320408966715049689484819698310994701324572445193352162111332134748519695370405271632375234088343905559743141758526296333400211709595110939334237855436551088984886395480329105694887439302576740029695027219191950507806604876678502389187843490165291241779494610010113
2,2398M.c326 33412176505662240354368370484069473244654711288811637581405137208186082238623525098056503449806874342844508249256718089773724941389261740488336405770071096644245897508313844602682750195879301126198337410222373556839158330275883473775399657190683164324934266103516840757540497104112120099814990971770400084063025572202273581381
[/CODE]This includes all the virgins from the 2+table, including some that Bob didn't mention.[/QUOTE]I've run all those up to 30 digits...

I know what the + and - mean, but what do the M and L mean?

BTW, WRT 2^1061-1, I'm still looking for someone to do stage 1 with Prime95 so I can do stage 2 with GMP-ECM...

geoff 2004-12-26 04:30

2,1418L and 2,1418M are Aurifeullian factors of 2,1418+. If n = 4k-2 then 2^n+1 = L.M where L = 2^(2k-1)-2^k+1 and M = 2^(2k-1)+2^k+1. (1418 = 4*355-2, so 2,1418L = 2^709-2^355+1 and 2,1418M = 2^709+2^355+1).

I have done most of the 40 digit levels for 2,1618L and 2,2158L, and about half the 45 digit level for 2,1418L, some has been reported in c120-355.txt and some not yet.

I think we need a thread for this sort of discussion, i.e. somewhere to say what Cunningham numbers we are working on and to brag about factors found etc., it has become spread over a number of different threads (guilty :-).

Xyzzy 2004-12-26 07:54

I'm still amazed at how much faster GMP-ECM is on AMD64...

I had to revert to an ordinary i386 install for a few days to debug some disk issues and as soon as I moved back I really noticed a major difference in interactive response and of course, GMP-ECM...

[code]Step 1 took 3631526ms
Step 2 took 3336029ms for 627995240 muls[/code][code]Step 1 took 2039799ms
Step 2 took 2298971ms for 627995240 muls[/code]:cat:

Xyzzy 2004-12-26 18:07

2.4GHz K8 versus 2.8GHz P4

[code]P4
72.55user 0.04system 1:19.71elapsed 91%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (0major+4682minor)pagefaults 0swaps[/code][code]K8
19.27user 0.01system 0:21.25elapsed 90%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (0major+4853minor)pagefaults 0swaps[/code]
Both running Debian... The P4 is a Prescott and the K8 is a 3400+... The P4 is running a 32-bit system and the K8 is running a 64-bit (only) system...

I guess, for ECM, the K8 is faster?

The benchmark was a midrange curve for M1061...

geoff 2004-12-27 10:20

Did you recompile the gmp library? The default 32 bit Debian libgmp is lousy for anything newer than i586. Also running two threads will give another 20-25% if hyperthreading is enabled.

The K8 will still win though, I think the only way the P4 will come close is by using Prime95 to do stage one.

Xyzzy 2004-12-27 14:43

[QUOTE=geoff]Did you recompile the gmp library? The default 32 bit Debian libgmp is lousy for anything newer than i586. Also running two threads will give another 20-25% if hyperthreading is enabled.[/QUOTE]No, I just run it as it is packaged... And my Prescott doesn't have HT at all...


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