Governments do pay out more than they take in- that's fully independent of socialism, and is known as a budget deficit. Standard practice in countries that control their own currency, and not all that controversial.

Also, do I need to learn how to set up PayPal to donate, or is there a 20th-century option?

[QUOTE=VBCurtis;565021]Also, do I need to learn how to set up PayPal to donate, or is there a 20th-century option?[/QUOTE]We can also accept $ via the USPS as long as it isn't in a ticking box.

:mike:

[QUOTE=Xyzzy;582111]We can also accept $ via the USPS as long as it isn't in a ticking box.[/QUOTE]I have a roll of pennies. I will send it postage due, COD. I have a couple dozen rolls. I can send one every week or so.
:two cents:

[QUOTE=VBCurtis;565021]...
Also, do I need to learn how to set up PayPal to donate, or is there a 20th-century option?[/QUOTE]No need to have a Paypal account to pay through them. You'll need a credit or debit card though.

Jacob

[QUOTE=a1call;565019]Somehow there is this misconception out there that socialism is not really a scam and governments can and actually do payout more money to people than they collect from them. But in a math forum there Is no room for such nonsense.
All for helping out of I can.[/QUOTE]
Hmmm hyper-inflation? I mean....

[QUOTE=firejuggler;582133]Hmmm hyper-inflation? I mean....[/QUOTE]

It is much simpler than that. It is simply magic. It is very similar to a magician pulling a coin out of your ear, except in this case you'll have to pay through the nose 1st.:smile:

[QUOTE=Uncwilly;582116]I have a roll of pennies. I will send it postage due, COD. I have a couple dozen rolls. I can send one every week or so.
:two cents:[/QUOTE]+1

:tu:

[QUOTE=a1call;565019]Somehow there is this misconception out there that socialism is not really a scam and governments can and actually do payout more money to people than they collect from them. But in a math forum there Is no room for such nonsense.
All for helping out of I can.[/QUOTE]
Funny to find those conceptions on a USA based forum. Did it escape you that for years, even decades, the USA, its government, its economy as a whole, are living thanks to the credit they receive from the rest of the world. The USA spending deficit attains vertiginous heights. China and all countries accepting payments in US dollars are subsidising the USA.

As for socialism, if you define it as a scam, I would suggest you look the word up, you could start at Wikipedia. (And no, China is not socialist or communist : its regime accepts private ownership of the means of production for instance. Its just yet another kleptocratic, oligarchic, dictatorship.)

Jacob

[QUOTE=S485122;582177]As for socialism, if you define it as a scam, I would suggest you look the word up, you could start at Wikipedia.[/QUOTE]

Or think about it the next time you're driving anywhere without paying a toll.