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Dozenal near- and quasi- repunit primes
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Are there any searching for near- and quasi- repunit primes (primes of the form aaa...aaab, abbb...bbb, aaa...aaabc, abbb...bbbc, abccc...ccc, see thread [URL="https://mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=19717"]https://mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=19717[/URL]) in dozenal (duodecimal)?
There are a lot of such searching in decimal ([URL="https://stdkmd.net/nrr/#factortables_nr"]https://stdkmd.net/nrr/#factortables_nr[/URL] and [URL="https://stdkmd.net/nrr/prime/primedifficulty.txt"]https://stdkmd.net/nrr/prime/primedifficulty.txt[/URL]), and I finished this searching in dozenal up to n=1000 (decimal 1728) |
[QUOTE=sweety439;545220]Are there any searching for near- and quasi- repunit primes (primes of the form aaa...aaab, abbb...bbb, aaa...aaabc, abbb...bbbc, abccc...ccc, see thread [URL="https://mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=19717"]https://mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=19717[/URL]) in dozenal (duodecimal)?
There are a lot of such searching in decimal ([URL="https://stdkmd.net/nrr/#factortables_nr"]https://stdkmd.net/nrr/#factortables_nr[/URL] and [URL="https://stdkmd.net/nrr/prime/"]https://stdkmd.net/nrr/prime/[/URL]), and I finished this searching in dozenal up to n=1000 (decimal 1728)[/QUOTE] These forms have no known (probable) primes: [CODE] label expression {1}55 (10^n+3E7)/E {2}97 (2*10^n+695)/E {8}77 (8*10^n-107)/E {E}9E 10^n-21 20{E} 21*10^n-1 22{E} 23*10^n-1 34{1} (309*10^n-1)/E 53{E} 54*10^n-1 89{1} (804*10^n-1)/E 99{1} (8E4*10^n-1)/E [/CODE] However, except the first three forms, all other forms cannot contain a prime because: 10^n-21, 21*10^n-1, (309*10^n-1)/E, 54*10^n-1, (804*10^n-1)/E even n: algebra factors (difference of two squares) odd n: factor of 11 23*10^n-1 even n: factor of 11 odd n: algebra factors (difference of two squares) (8E4*10^n-1)/E covering set {5, 11, 25} also note that the form 1{5}1, which is (14*10^n-41)/E, can be prime [I]only for[/I] n=1 because even n: algebra factors (difference of two squares) odd n: factor of 11 (and this number for n=1 is exactly 11) Can someone found a prime of the form {1}55 (111...11155), {2}97 (222...22297), {8}77 (888...88877) in dozenal? |
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I use srsieve to sieve all {a}b and a{b} forms, and type "srsieve -m 429981696 -n 1729 -N 248832 -p 13 -P 429981696 k.txt" and "srfile -G srsieve.out", however, the result text files are now apply to pfgw, these are the programs and the result text files (unfortunately, the folder is too large (>4 MB), even zipped, so I separate it to 3 zip files), can someone help me how to use srsieve to sieve them and make a file that is apply to pfgw?
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[QUOTE=sweety439;545284]I use srsieve to sieve all {a}b and a{b} forms, and type "srsieve -m 429981696 -n 1729 -N 248832 -p 13 -P 429981696 k.txt" and "srfile -G srsieve.out", however, the result text files are now apply to pfgw, these are the programs and the result text files (unfortunately, the folder is too large (>4 MB), even zipped, so I separate it to 3 zip files), can someone help me how to use srsieve to sieve them and make a file that is apply to pfgw?[/QUOTE]
You don't want to use -G, or at least it's not the simplest way to accomplish what you're asking. The text files are essentially 'prp' files, I combined them into one abcd file: srfile -a "t16_b12.txt" "t17_b12.txt" "t19_b12.txt" which I then ran on pfgw for a few minutes without finding anything. If you need to anything, you could always switch back between g, a, or G switches. Replacing the files with * symbol srfile -a "t*_b12.txt" could save you some time. BTW you should really check [URL="http://www.primenumbers.net/prptop/searchform.php?form=12%5En%2Bk&action=Search"]PRPtop[/URL] before sieving sequences. |
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[QUOTE=carpetpool;545427]You don't want to use -G, or at least it's not the simplest way to accomplish what you're asking. The text files are essentially 'prp' files, I combined them into one abcd file:
srfile -a "t16_b12.txt" "t17_b12.txt" "t19_b12.txt" which I then ran on pfgw for a few minutes without finding anything. If you need to anything, you could always switch back between g, a, or G switches. Replacing the files with * symbol srfile -a "t*_b12.txt" could save you some time. BTW you should really check [URL="http://www.primenumbers.net/prptop/searchform.php?form=12%5En%2Bk&action=Search"]PRPtop[/URL] before sieving sequences.[/QUOTE] Okay, update the zip file of the abcd file However, when I do the pfgw.exe for this abcd file, it tested all numbers of the form 1*12^n-11 (numbers of the form {E}1 in dozenal) first, I want to test the numbers [B]sorted by exponent[/B] (i.e. test n=1729 of all forms in the sieve file, then n=1730 of all forms in the sieve file, then n=1731 of all forms in the sieve file, etc.), how to do? |
I don't know of any utility that does this but srfile:
[CODE]>>> srfile --help srfile 0.6.17 -- A file utility for srsieve. Usage: srfile [OPTION ...] <INFILE ...> -o --output FILE Write sieve to FILE instead of srsieve.out. -k --known-factors FILE Remove factors in FILE from the sieve. -d --delete SEQ Delete sequence SEQ from the sieve e.g. -d "254*5^n-1" -g --newpgen Write sieve to NewPGen format files t*_b*_k*.npg. -G --prp Write sieve to PRP (sorted by n) files t*_b*.prp. -w --pfgw Write sieve to pfgw (sorted by n) file sr_b.pfgw. -a --abcd Write sieve to abcd format file sr_b.abcd. -Q --subseqs X Print base b^Q subsequence stats for all Q dividing X. -c --congruence X Print congruence (mod X) information for sequences. -p --pfactor X Print Prime95 worktodo.ini entries for P-1 factoring. X is number of PRP tests saved by finding a factor. -v --verbose Be verbose. -q --quiet Be quiet. -h --help Print this help. INFILE ... Read sieve from INFILE.[/CODE] The prp file separates the seqeunces by + or - 1 and + or - c is my understanding. Pfgw's 'abcfileformats.txt' file didn't have much helpful information on converting between ABC type files either. If you have a machine with at least 6 threads, you could try using the 3 prp files you initially had, and test each of them with pfgw simultaneuosly. Last I checked pfgw had a multi threading option, but I don't know how fast it is. You will probably get testing done faster this way. |
srfile "-w" option sorts by n!
When running pfgw also use an expression like "{number_primes,$a,1}" in the header, see the documentation there. |
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Do you know what I tell? The cmd.exe prints:
[CODE] Recognized ABCD Sieve file: ABCD File 1*12^1735-11 is composite: RES64: [6BDE769573E9DD87] (0.0390s+0.0017s) 1*12^1741-11 is composite: RES64: [B58118C70216C647] (0.0347s+0.0015s) 1*12^1744-11 is composite: RES64: [142A82E3727A17D2] (0.0367s+0.0012s) 1*12^1746-11 is composite: RES64: [7E35AA5FEEC6F6FD] (0.0380s+0.0014s) 1*12^1749-11 is composite: RES64: [97163264F74252C8] (0.0412s+0.0018s) 1*12^1750-11 is composite: RES64: [E83850812A9BEBC8] (0.0401s+0.0014s) 1*12^1753-11 is composite: RES64: [1DB9B8478E2FA7C6] (0.0399s+0.0016s) 1*12^1758-11 is composite: RES64: [5EAE71FA1429FD5D] (0.0392s+0.0034s) 1*12^1762-11 is composite: RES64: [511A3C0E8959CE0E] (0.0395s+0.0013s) 1*12^1767-11 is composite: RES64: [59E005357B6740DD] (0.0445s+0.0014s) 1*12^1773-11 is composite: RES64: [AE3F4045D68FB340] (0.0692s+0.0014s) 1*12^1775-11 is composite: RES64: [2E6AE6083215A94F] (0.0453s+0.0018s) 1*12^1780-11 is composite: RES64: [98D5BD70E37258CC] (0.0377s+0.0015s) 1*12^1783-11 is composite: RES64: [A3923A1E6AA77841] (0.0427s+0.0013s) 1*12^1785-11 is composite: RES64: [9F1B420E350BFFCC] (0.0430s+0.0013s) 1*12^1793-11 is composite: RES64: [DCCA9D5E4B98EB44] (0.0459s+0.0012s) 1*12^1806-11 is composite: RES64: [EE0AD2158FEEFCDC] (0.0386s+0.0039s) 1*12^1810-11 is composite: RES64: [398A1BC7C63F2956] (0.0475s+0.0014s) 1*12^1813-11 is composite: RES64: [03761C9BFB3ABD46] (0.0486s+0.0014s) 1*12^1835-11 is composite: RES64: [F6E11B4B32134874] (0.0378s+0.0014s) 1*12^1840-11 is composite: RES64: [BCFE8C1BAF1D26B2] (0.0553s+0.0016s) 1*12^1869-11 is composite: RES64: [0569E7AD2978EC5C] (0.0560s+0.0042s) 1*12^1870-11 is composite: RES64: [F41DB45A4575B26D] (0.0551s+0.0010s) 1*12^1873-11 is composite: RES64: [E43D492C726AB3C8] (0.0492s+0.0014s) 1*12^1881-11 is composite: RES64: [EC7DB6D650DCAAA8] (0.0504s+0.0014s) 1*12^1895-11 is composite: RES64: [A1168D47291AFB92] (0.0551s+0.0012s) 1*12^1896-11 is composite: RES64: [A91D2899F9E80912] (0.0500s+0.0015s) 1*12^1901-11 is composite: RES64: [3AE6E7644F645918] (0.0537s+0.0014s) 1*12^1905-11 is composite: RES64: [B883EE2E70080C73] (0.0512s+0.0014s) 1*12^1908-11 is composite: RES64: [60959CD3DBDB153E] (0.0496s+0.0013s) 1*12^1911-11 is composite: RES64: [4B58FDB27213AB3B] (0.0497s+0.0011s) 1*12^1921-11 is composite: RES64: [37CEC4EB70D1574A] (0.0483s+0.0014s) 1*12^1926-11 is composite: RES64: [FCB2F1D40487D934] (0.0581s+0.0013s) [/CODE] It runs [I]all numbers of the form 1*12^n-11[/I] first, I want that it runs all numbers with n=1729 first, then n=1730, then n=1731, etc. like this: (the numbers in this list is not right, all numbers divisible by 11 should be divided by 11) [CODE] 1*12^1729+43 1*12^1729+65 1*12^1729+109 2*12^1729-13 2*12^1729+31 2*12^1729+53 2*12^1729+97 3*12^1729-25 3*12^1729+19 3*12^1729+41 3*12^1729+85 4*12^1729-37 4*12^1729+7 4*12^1729+29 4*12^1729+73 5*12^1729-49 5*12^1729+17 5*12^1729+61 6*12^1729-61 6*12^1729-17 6*12^1729+5 6*12^1729+49 7*12^1729-73 7*12^1729-29 7*12^1729+37 8*12^1729-85 8*12^1729-41 8*12^1729-19 8*12^1729+25 9*12^1729-97 9*12^1729-53 9*12^1729-31 9*12^1729+13 10*12^1729-109 10*12^1729-43 10*12^1729+1 1*12^1729-11 1*12^1729-7 1*12^1729-5 16*12^1729-5 18*12^1729-7 2*12^1729-1 23*12^1729-1 27*12^1729-5 29*12^1729-7 3*12^1729-1 34*12^1729-1 38*12^1729-5 40*12^1729-7 4*12^1729-1 45*12^1729-1 49*12^1729-5 51*12^1729-7 5*12^1729-1 56*12^1729-1 62*12^1729-7 6*12^1729-1 67*12^1729-1 71*12^1729-5 73*12^1729-7 7*12^1729-1 78*12^1729-1 82*12^1729-5 8*12^1729-1 89*12^1729-1 93*12^1729-5 95*12^1729-7 9*12^1729-1 100*12^1729-1 104*12^1729-5 106*12^1729-7 10*12^1729-1 111*12^1729-1 117*12^1729-7 11*12^1729-1 122*12^1729-1 126*12^1729-5 128*12^1729-7 1*12^1730+43 1*12^1730+65 1*12^1730+109 2*12^1730-13 2*12^1730+31 2*12^1730+53 2*12^1730+97 3*12^1730-25 3*12^1730+19 3*12^1730+41 3*12^1730+85 4*12^1730-37 4*12^1730+7 4*12^1730+29 4*12^1730+73 5*12^1730-49 5*12^1730+17 5*12^1730+61 6*12^1730-61 6*12^1730-17 6*12^1730+5 6*12^1730+49 7*12^1730-73 7*12^1730-29 7*12^1730+37 8*12^1730-85 8*12^1730-41 8*12^1730-19 8*12^1730+25 9*12^1730-97 9*12^1730-53 9*12^1730-31 9*12^1730+13 10*12^1730-109 10*12^1730-43 10*12^1730+1 1*12^1730-11 1*12^1730-7 1*12^1730-5 16*12^1730-5 18*12^1730-7 2*12^1730-1 23*12^1730-1 27*12^1730-5 29*12^1730-7 3*12^1730-1 34*12^1730-1 38*12^1730-5 40*12^1730-7 4*12^1730-1 45*12^1730-1 49*12^1730-5 51*12^1730-7 5*12^1730-1 56*12^1730-1 62*12^1730-7 6*12^1730-1 67*12^1730-1 71*12^1730-5 73*12^1730-7 7*12^1730-1 78*12^1730-1 82*12^1730-5 8*12^1730-1 89*12^1730-1 93*12^1730-5 95*12^1730-7 9*12^1730-1 100*12^1730-1 104*12^1730-5 106*12^1730-7 10*12^1730-1 111*12^1730-1 117*12^1730-7 11*12^1730-1 122*12^1730-1 126*12^1730-5 128*12^1730-7 1*12^1731+43 1*12^1731+65 1*12^1731+109 2*12^1731-13 2*12^1731+31 2*12^1731+53 2*12^1731+97 3*12^1731-25 3*12^1731+19 3*12^1731+41 3*12^1731+85 4*12^1731-37 4*12^1731+7 4*12^1731+29 4*12^1731+73 5*12^1731-49 5*12^1731+17 5*12^1731+61 6*12^1731-61 6*12^1731-17 6*12^1731+5 6*12^1731+49 7*12^1731-73 7*12^1731-29 7*12^1731+37 8*12^1731-85 8*12^1731-41 8*12^1731-19 8*12^1731+25 9*12^1731-97 9*12^1731-53 9*12^1731-31 9*12^1731+13 10*12^1731-109 10*12^1731-43 10*12^1731+1 1*12^1731-11 1*12^1731-7 1*12^1731-5 16*12^1731-5 18*12^1731-7 2*12^1731-1 23*12^1731-1 27*12^1731-5 29*12^1731-7 3*12^1731-1 34*12^1731-1 38*12^1731-5 40*12^1731-7 4*12^1731-1 45*12^1731-1 49*12^1731-5 51*12^1731-7 5*12^1731-1 56*12^1731-1 62*12^1731-7 6*12^1731-1 67*12^1731-1 71*12^1731-5 73*12^1731-7 7*12^1731-1 78*12^1731-1 82*12^1731-5 8*12^1731-1 89*12^1731-1 93*12^1731-5 95*12^1731-7 9*12^1731-1 100*12^1731-1 104*12^1731-5 106*12^1731-7 10*12^1731-1 111*12^1731-1 117*12^1731-7 11*12^1731-1 122*12^1731-1 126*12^1731-5 128*12^1731-7 [/CODE] |
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Also, the abcd file has the number 1*12^n+43, 1*12^65, 1*12^109, etc. instead of (1*12^n+43)/11, (1*12^n+65)/11, (1*12^n+109)/11, etc. however, I want to test the primility for the (1*12^n+43)/11, (1*12^n+65)/11, (1*12^n+109)/11, etc. how to change the numbers in the abcd file? For text file (for the prp file), I know how to do, like my reserving for extended SR46 and SR58: (For every base (b) for the forms (k*b^n+1)/gcd(k+1,b-1) and (k*b^n-1)/gcd(k-1,b-1), there exists a unique value of k for each form that has been conjectured to be the lowest 'Sierpinski value' (+1 form) or 'Riesel value' (-1 form) that is composite for all values of n >= 1. k's make a full covering set with all or partial algebraic factors (e.g. (4*19^n-1)/3, 4*24^n-1, (4*25^n-1)/3, 9*4^n-1, (9*25^n-1)/8, 9*36^n-1) are not considered)
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Besides, I use srsieve to sieve them, but srsieve can only sieve a*b^n+c with a>=1, b>=2, c != 0, gcd(a,c)=1, gcd(b,c)=1, it cannot sieve the general case (a*b^n+c)/d (like many cases of dozenal near-repunits:
[CODE] {1}5 (12^n+43)/11 {1}7 (12^n+65)/11 {1}E (12^n+109)/11 2{1} (23*12^n-1)/11 3{1} (34*12^n-1)/11 4{1} (45*12^n-1)/11 [/CODE] Thus I sieve 12^n+43, 12^n+65, 12^n+109, 23*12^n-1, 34*12^n-1, 45*12^n-1, etc. instead of (12^n+43)/11, (12^n+65)/11, (12^n+109)/11, (23*12^n-1)/11, (34*12^n-1)/11, (45*12^n-1)/11, etc. in srsieve, but since these numbers are all divisible by 11, thus I can only sieve start with the prime 13, or [I]all numbers[/I] will be removed from the sieve file, and there are still many dozenal near-repunits that are divisible by 5, 7, or 11 in the sieve file, do you know how to remove them? |
[QUOTE=sweety439;545626]Besides, I use srsieve to sieve them, but srsieve can only sieve a*b^n+c with a>=1, b>=2, c != 0, gcd(a,c)=1, gcd(b,c)=1, it cannot sieve the general case (a*b^n+c)/d (like many cases of dozenal near-repunits:
[CODE] {1}5 (12^n+43)/11 {1}7 (12^n+65)/11 {1}E (12^n+109)/11 2{1} (23*12^n-1)/11 3{1} (34*12^n-1)/11 4{1} (45*12^n-1)/11 [/CODE] Thus I sieve 12^n+43, 12^n+65, 12^n+109, 23*12^n-1, 34*12^n-1, 45*12^n-1, etc. instead of (12^n+43)/11, (12^n+65)/11, (12^n+109)/11, (23*12^n-1)/11, (34*12^n-1)/11, (45*12^n-1)/11, etc. in srsieve, but since these numbers are all divisible by 11, thus I can only sieve start with the prime 13, or [I]all numbers[/I] will be removed from the sieve file, and there are still many dozenal near-repunits that are divisible by 5, 7, or 11 in the sieve file, do you know how to remove them?[/QUOTE] Srsieve is for numbers of the form k*b^n+-c and sr2sieve requires that k=1 or c=1. Thus, you would have to find a program that sieves your requested forms, or use the -f switch in pfgw instead of a sieve (trial factoring is only slightly slower than actual sieving BTW). Alternatively, you could make a program with GP or some other math library which sieves your specific form. I did this once for other forms that don't have a dedicated sieving program. I could send you an example if you like. |
[QUOTE=carpetpool;545650]Srsieve is for numbers of the form k*b^n+-c and sr2sieve requires that k=1 or c=1. Thus, you would have to find a program that sieves your requested forms, or use the -f switch in pfgw instead of a sieve (trial factoring is only slightly slower than actual sieving BTW). Alternatively, you could make a program with GP or some other math library which sieves your specific form. I did this once for other forms that don't have a dedicated sieving program. I could send you an example if you like.[/QUOTE]
You are wrong, I use -w and sorted by n [CODE] Recognized ABC Sieve file: ABC File 2*12^1729-13 is composite: RES64: [FCBEFF5D9726017B] (0.3088s+0.0442s) 3*12^1729+19 is composite: RES64: [ACD8BE7F69CCF93B] (0.2875s+0.1171s) 3*12^1729+41 is composite: RES64: [13D1BC98F11A1A82] (0.8990s+0.1535s) 6*12^1729+49 is composite: RES64: [3AD5B119E2BC4FE2] (0.2647s+0.1758s) 71*12^1729-5 is composite: RES64: [AA02B20400C7D891] (0.7988s+0.1091s) 128*12^1729-7 is composite: RES64: [C8E3BF8CFD691188] (0.3862s+0.1363s) 3*12^1730-1 is composite: RES64: [1CD2CC9E6C8D8C2C] (0.2181s+0.6109s) 3*12^1730+19 is composite: RES64: [8E72C8EF272B1A9B] (0.7866s+0.1368s) 3*12^1730+41 is composite: RES64: [E12318DFFBE36C71] (0.2949s+0.1277s) 5*12^1730-49 is composite: RES64: [F51EBD81224CFD18] (0.2575s+0.1078s) 10*12^1730-1 is composite: RES64: [4DF840F2E104A15E] (0.3002s+0.1506s) 23*12^1730-1 is composite: RES64: [C6CFD00F72C6845B] (0.3583s+0.1165s) 38*12^1730-5 is composite: RES64: [EBA5F05BB4D8C003] (0.3450s+0.1096s) 62*12^1730-7 is composite: RES64: [50DF9889A454B12B] (0.3860s+0.1197s) 73*12^1730-7 is composite: RES64: [C9B26E9494C4DD5A] (0.3311s+0.1635s) 78*12^1730-1 is composite: RES64: [36209BE0322224D6] (0.2912s+0.1105s) 93*12^1730-5 is composite: RES64: [B98A7200C2AABCC3] (0.3199s+0.0997s) 95*12^1730-7 is composite: RES64: [3344A36EFC545CB9] (0.3698s+0.0004s) [/CODE] |
[QUOTE=sweety439;545688]You are wrong, I use -w and sorted by n
[CODE] Recognized ABC Sieve file: ABC File 2*12^1729-13 is composite: RES64: [FCBEFF5D9726017B] (0.3088s+0.0442s) 3*12^1729+19 is composite: RES64: [ACD8BE7F69CCF93B] (0.2875s+0.1171s) 3*12^1729+41 is composite: RES64: [13D1BC98F11A1A82] (0.8990s+0.1535s) 6*12^1729+49 is composite: RES64: [3AD5B119E2BC4FE2] (0.2647s+0.1758s) 71*12^1729-5 is composite: RES64: [AA02B20400C7D891] (0.7988s+0.1091s) 128*12^1729-7 is composite: RES64: [C8E3BF8CFD691188] (0.3862s+0.1363s) 3*12^1730-1 is composite: RES64: [1CD2CC9E6C8D8C2C] (0.2181s+0.6109s) 3*12^1730+19 is composite: RES64: [8E72C8EF272B1A9B] (0.7866s+0.1368s) 3*12^1730+41 is composite: RES64: [E12318DFFBE36C71] (0.2949s+0.1277s) 5*12^1730-49 is composite: RES64: [F51EBD81224CFD18] (0.2575s+0.1078s) 10*12^1730-1 is composite: RES64: [4DF840F2E104A15E] (0.3002s+0.1506s) 23*12^1730-1 is composite: RES64: [C6CFD00F72C6845B] (0.3583s+0.1165s) 38*12^1730-5 is composite: RES64: [EBA5F05BB4D8C003] (0.3450s+0.1096s) 62*12^1730-7 is composite: RES64: [50DF9889A454B12B] (0.3860s+0.1197s) 73*12^1730-7 is composite: RES64: [C9B26E9494C4DD5A] (0.3311s+0.1635s) 78*12^1730-1 is composite: RES64: [36209BE0322224D6] (0.2912s+0.1105s) 93*12^1730-5 is composite: RES64: [B98A7200C2AABCC3] (0.3199s+0.0997s) 95*12^1730-7 is composite: RES64: [3344A36EFC545CB9] (0.3698s+0.0004s) [/CODE][/QUOTE] WTF.... I forget to divide these numbers by 11 |
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[QUOTE=sweety439;545689]WTF.... I forget to divide these numbers by 11[/QUOTE]
How did you sieve them though? I figured you could use the -w option BTW. |
[QUOTE=carpetpool;545742]How did you sieve them though? I figured you could use the -w option BTW.[/QUOTE]
I sieved start with the prime 13 |
[QUOTE=carpetpool;545742]How did you sieve them though? I figured you could use the -w option BTW.[/QUOTE]
For the form (k*12^n+-c)/11, I sieved k*12^n+-c, since srsieve cannot sieve (k*12^n+-c)/11 |
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[QUOTE=sweety439;545221]These forms have no known (probable) primes:
[CODE] label expression {1}55 (10^n+3E7)/E {2}97 (2*10^n+695)/E {8}77 (8*10^n-107)/E {E}9E 10^n-21 20{E} 21*10^n-1 22{E} 23*10^n-1 34{1} (309*10^n-1)/E 53{E} 54*10^n-1 89{1} (804*10^n-1)/E 99{1} (8E4*10^n-1)/E [/CODE] However, except the first three forms, all other forms cannot contain a prime because: 10^n-21, 21*10^n-1, (309*10^n-1)/E, 54*10^n-1, (804*10^n-1)/E even n: algebra factors (difference of two squares) odd n: factor of 11 23*10^n-1 even n: factor of 11 odd n: algebra factors (difference of two squares) (8E4*10^n-1)/E covering set {5, 11, 25} also note that the form 1{5}1, which is (14*10^n-41)/E, can be prime [I]only for[/I] n=1 because even n: algebra factors (difference of two squares) odd n: factor of 11 (and this number for n=1 is exactly 11) Can someone found a prime of the form {1}55 (111...11155), {2}97 (222...22297), {8}77 (888...88877) in dozenal?[/QUOTE] Also {3}11 (333...33311) (3×10^n−201)/E, no known (probable) primes for n>2 |
[QUOTE=sweety439;545798]Also {3}11 (333...33311) (3×10^n−201)/E, no known (probable) primes for n>2[/QUOTE]
Also {1}87 (111...11187) (10^n+6X5)/E Besides, I found that {3}11 (333...33311) (3×10^n−201)/E cannot be prime since * For even n, such numbers are divisible by 11 * For odd n, such numbers can be factored as (let n=2*k+1): ((6*10^k-15)/E) * (6*10^k+15) i.e. 666...6665 * 6000...00015 thus cannot be prime. |
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[QUOTE=sweety439;545220]Are there any searching for near- and quasi- repunit primes (primes of the form aaa...aaab, abbb...bbb, aaa...aaabc, abbb...bbbc, abccc...ccc, see thread [URL="https://mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=19717"]https://mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=19717[/URL]) in dozenal (duodecimal)?
There are a lot of such searching in decimal ([URL="https://stdkmd.net/nrr/#factortables_nr"]https://stdkmd.net/nrr/#factortables_nr[/URL] and [URL="https://stdkmd.net/nrr/prime/primedifficulty.txt"]https://stdkmd.net/nrr/prime/primedifficulty.txt[/URL]), and I finished this searching in dozenal up to n=1000 (decimal 1728)[/QUOTE] 5 out of the 6 largest known Mersenne Prime exponents are ended with 5 when written in the dozenal base. Also, I cannot find any 9s in all of them. Ӿ,ӾƐ3,855 12,531,515 17,476,435 20,Ӿ28041 21,Ӿ46,Ɛ85 23,7ӾƐ,125 |
I can do better: when written in base 2, [U][B]all[/B][/U] mersenne prime's exponents end in 1.
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[QUOTE=LaurV;558296]I can do better: when written in base 2, [U][B]all[/B][/U] mersenne prime's exponents end in 1.[/QUOTE]
All but the first... |
[QUOTE=tuckerkao;558291]5 out of the 6 largest known Mersenne Prime exponents are ended with 5 when written in the dozenal base. Also, I cannot find any 9s in all of them.
Ӿ,ӾƐ3,855 12,531,515 17,476,435 20,Ӿ28041 21,Ӿ46,Ɛ85 23,7ӾƐ,125[/QUOTE] In dozenal, no primes end with 9, since all numbers end with 0, 3, 6, 9 are divisible by 3 (see [URL="https://dozenal.fandom.com/wiki/Divisibility_rule"]Dozenal divisibility rule[/URL]) Also, these project is for the [B]near-repunit and quasi-repunit[/B] primes in dozenal, not for the Mersenne Prime exponents in dozenal. |
[URL="https://dozenal.fandom.com/wiki/Near-repdigit_prime"]status for dozenal near-repdigit primes[/URL]
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[QUOTE=sweety439;558303]In dozenal, no primes end with 9, since all numbers end with 0, 3, 6, 9 are divisible by 3 (see [URL="https://dozenal.fandom.com/wiki/Divisibility_rule"]Dozenal divisibility rule[/URL])
Also, these project is for the [B]near-repunit and quasi-repunit[/B] primes in dozenal, not for the Mersenne Prime exponents in dozenal.[/QUOTE] I was mentioning about no 9s for the entire numbers not only the ending units. For example 9 dozen 1 and 9 dozen 5 are both primes. [QUOTE=LaurV;558296]I can do better: when written in base 2, [U][B]all[/B][/U] mersenne prime's exponents end in 1.[/QUOTE] The 0 enders = even numbers, the 1 enders = odd numbers which sound very familiar to everyone. Base 4 will give more insights as whether the prime exponents turn out to be the 1 ender or the 3 ender. |
[QUOTE=tuckerkao;558310]I was mentioning about no 9s for the entire numbers not only the ending units.
For example 9 dozen 1 and 9 dozen 5 are both primes. The 0 enders = even numbers, the 1 enders = odd numbers which sound very familiar to everyone. Base 4 will give more insights as whether the prime exponents turn out to be the 1 ender or the 3 ender.[/QUOTE] Well, there is a list for all Mersenne primes and all Mersenne exponents in dozenal: [URL="https://dozenal.fandom.com/wiki/Mersenne_prime"]https://dozenal.fandom.com/wiki/Mersenne_prime[/URL] All Mersenne primes > 3 end with 7, and all Mersenne primes > 7 end with either 27 or X7 (27 and X7 are the only two-digit Mersenne primes). Also, Mersenne exponents end with E are fewer than Mersenne exponents end with 1, 5, or 7, since if p end with E and 2p+1 is also prime (e.g. p = E, 1E, 6E, XE), then Mp is divisible by 2p+1, thus composite. |
[QUOTE=Dr Sardonicus;558298]All but the first...[/QUOTE]
Yet, I did better than him! :razz: |
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[QUOTE=sweety439;558318]Well, there is a list for all Mersenne primes and all Mersenne exponents in dozenal: [URL="https://dozenal.fandom.com/wiki/Mersenne_prime"]https://dozenal.fandom.com/wiki/Mersenne_prime[/URL]
All Mersenne primes > 3 end with 7, and all Mersenne primes > 7 end with either 27 or X7 (27 and X7 are the only two-digit Mersenne primes). Also, Mersenne exponents end with E are fewer than Mersenne exponents end with 1, 5, or 7, since if p end with E and 2p+1 is also prime (e.g. p = E, 1E, 6E, XE), then Mp is divisible by 2p+1, thus composite.[/QUOTE] Thanks for the list, it seems like when the exponents end in dozenal 5, it has the slightly higher chance for being a Mersenne Prime. I have my list for the exponents in dozenal enders, Red for 1, Blue for 5, Pink for 7, Skyblue for Ɛ. |
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