[QUOTE=tuckerkao;557903]USA is expecting the surge as soon as the first major cold front arrives to the Midwest regions.[/QUOTE]Why is that? If the summer heat didn't do much to slow it, a cooldown seems unlikely to boost it much. This article describes weather sensitivities found by various studies:

[url]https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200506/The-effect-of-weather-on-COVID-19-infection-rate.aspx[/url] and predicted covid19 disappearing in the US by October, which is not happening.

[QUOTE=kriesel;557901]Overcounting covid19 deaths as in cases where acute trauma occurred but the death certificate said covid19. Overall death rate increase observed is higher than covid19-attributed in some nations,and that may relate to the significant shutdown of many types of medical treatment for several months. [/QUOTE]Can you point to any solid evidence that trauma deaths are being miscounted as C19? Not an anecdote, solid evidence?

And in the USA road deaths were down at the time of the great peak. So that offset the numbers as well. And the tail end of the flu season was effected by the lockdown, reducing actual flu deaths.

[QUOTE=kriesel;557906]Why is that? If the summer heat didn't do much to slow it, a cooldown seems unlikely to boost it much. This article describes weather sensitivities found by various studies:

[url]https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200506/The-effect-of-weather-on-COVID-19-infection-rate.aspx[/url] and predicted covid19 disappearing in the US by October, which is not happening.[/QUOTE]
There were nearly no influenza spreading during the entire summer time from June to August 2020. USA just recorded 50,000+ new Covid cases today which have been significantly higher than the previous 2 weeks.

Just wait and see, unless people are frequently getting tested, the asymptomatic carriers will continue to drive up that infection force.

Once people start to gather more inside and conduct larger mass indoor activities as Thanksgiving and Christmas approaching, the total daily cases will break the new records. Most Americans aren't giving up their traditions because of the pandemic.

[QUOTE=kriesel;557906][url]https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200506/The-effect-of-weather-on-COVID-19-infection-rate.aspx[/url] and predicted covid19 disappearing in the US by October, which is not happening.[/QUOTE]That is the only outlet to site the original paper. And that site published it in May, when the data of their April downturn prediction was already known to be wrong.

[QUOTE=Uncwilly;557911]That is the only outlet to site the original paper. And that site published it in May, when the data of their April downturn prediction was already known to be wrong.[/QUOTE]
Dr. Fauci has claimed that at least 1 effective Covid vaccine will be ready to deliver to the American general public starting Dec 2020. I'm still not seeing this promise happening.

Why did you feel the need to quote my post and then talk about something different? Are you looking at the monitor at 100° tilt or something?

[QUOTE=Uncwilly;557914]Why did you feel the need to quote my post and then talk about something different? Are you looking at the monitor at 100° tilt or something?[/QUOTE]
I was talking about many of the predictions being wrong in the past including that article being posted back in May from your post and many of the statements claimed by Trump and Fauci.

If I want my life to be back to the normal point, these promises have to be fulfilled first. The only condition for Covid to magically disappear in October 2020 is to have an effective vaccine ready.

[QUOTE=tuckerkao;557915]I was talking about many of the predictions being wrong in the past including that article being posted back in May from your post and many of the statements claimed by Trump and Fauci.

If I want my life to be back to the normal point, these promises have to be fulfilled first. [U]The only condition for Covid to magically disappear in October 2020 is to have an effective vaccine ready.[/U][/QUOTE]
Effective, and of course, safe. The various misinformation campaigns have greatly decreased the percentage of people who say they would accept a vaccination. Some folks pushing to drop something by the election is making lots of people, like me, nervous. If political concerns supplant medical guidance, that loss of trust will be magnified.

[QUOTE=kriesel;557901]...
the hardest hit countries are Peru and Ecuador, each of which have seen more than 1,000 excess deaths per million inhabitants. The two Latin American countries also have the highest excess percentage — excess deaths expressed as a share of normal deaths for the same period." Is this mostly from an inadequate healthcare system, culture, government response, what?[/QUOTE]Perhaps poverty and lack of resources for the government might play a role (amongst other factors) ? Not all countries can create money out of, not even thin air, but out of the void, that will accepted by others [noparse];-)[/noparse]

Jacob

[QUOTE=tuckerkao;557912]Dr. Fauci has claimed that at least 1 effective Covid vaccine will be ready to deliver to the American general public starting Dec 2020. I'm still not seeing this promise happening.[/QUOTE]Could you please cite a source for "Will be ready?"

As far as I can tell, what he [i]actually[/i] said (back in April) was, (according to [url=https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/05/22/860638799/fauci-voices-cautious-optimism-about-moderna-vaccine-calling-trial-quite-promisi]this report[/url] and others) was as follows (my emphasis):[quote]"I think it is [b]conceivable if[/b] we don't run into things that are, as they say, unanticipated setbacks, that we [b]could[/b] have a vaccine that we [b]could[/b] be beginning to deploy at the end of this calendar year, December 2020 or into January 2021," Fauci said.

But [b]"that's never a promise,"[/b] he cautioned, "because when you're dealing with vaccines, there could be so many things that get in the way."[/quote]

[QUOTE=Dr Sardonicus;557946]Could you please cite a source for "Will be ready?"

As far as I can tell, what he [i]actually[/i] said (back in April) was, (according to [url=https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/05/22/860638799/fauci-voices-cautious-optimism-about-moderna-vaccine-calling-trial-quite-promisi]this report[/url] and others) was as follows (my emphasis):[/QUOTE]
Fauci's news is still going on CNN, I just hope it's real not a joke.
[URL="https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/25/health/us-coronavirus-friday/index.html"]https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/25/health/us-coronavirus-friday/index.html[/URL]