[QUOTE=xilman;541497]The London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine is a prestigious academic instution, comparable in reputation to, say, the Harvard School of Medicine.

This is what they have to say today.

[URL]https://www.lshtm.ac.uk/newsevents/news/2020/reproduction-number-covid-19-could-be-below-one-uk-lockdown[/URL]

If R0 is truly down to 0.62 [B]and can be kept that way[/B] the number of cases should fall dramatically over the next two weeks.[/QUOTE]


What happened to the statistics from FT you liked to cite before?
It seems they simply create new stats when the old ones don't look that good anymore ;-)

Are the old ones (like death rate starting at day 0 = 10 death) still available somewhere?

[QUOTE=Till;541516]What happened to the statistics from FT you liked to cite before?
[/QUOTE]
[url]https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest[/url]

[QUOTE=kriesel;541520][URL]https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest[/URL][/QUOTE]


I know the page, but they changed the kind of statistics... (e.g. before there was "death per day", now it is "cases per day", with different start conditions)


Good pages try to be "reliable" in the way that you can recall the information they put once, no matter how lateyou try. Here, the previous statistics seem lost.

[QUOTE=Till;541523]Here, the previous statistics seem lost.[/QUOTE]Don't worry about either the current, or the past, stats. They are all mostly useless at this point. They will probably improve with time, but we aren't there yet.

[QUOTE=retina;541526]Don't worry about either the current, or the past, stats. They are all mostly useless at this point. They will probably improve with time, but we aren't there yet.[/QUOTE]


You are of course right.
My point here is not about what happens with Covid; it is about what happens at the FT; why they hide data they showed before, if that is really the case.

[QUOTE=Till;541527]My point here is not about what happens with Covid; it is about what happens at the FT; why they hide data they showed before, if that is really the case.[/QUOTE]Perhaps because they realised the data they had previously shown was useless.

[url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddisalvo/2020/03/30/i-spent-a-day-in-the-coronavirus-driven-feeding-frenzy-of-n95-mask-sellers-and-buyers-and-this-is-what-i-learned/#4f5a963d56d4]I Spent A Day In The Coronavirus-Driven Feeding Frenzy Of N95 Mask Sellers And Buyers And This Is What I Learned[/url] | Forbes
[quote]At one point he received an update that 43 million masks were available in New Jersey, in the same time-frame that federal and state leaders were saying in press conferences that they were “scouring the globe” for masks. But the masks in New Jersey, along with many million more, didn’t go to any domestic buyer. Instead, according to the broker, they were all purchased by foreign buyers.

“Most of the masks are leaving the country,” he told me.

That is not the case in countries that have cracked down on exports, he added, but as of now the U.S. is allowing many types of medical supplies to leave the country even as states and hospital systems are expressing desperate need for masks and other PPE.
...
[b]By the end of the day, roughly 280 million masks from warehouses around the U.S. had been purchased by foreign buyers and were earmarked to leave the country, according to the broker — and that was in one day[/b].[/quote]
A reader vents:
[i]
I do not want to hear one more goddamned story about the “scarcity” of [personal protective equipment] for frontline healthcare workers until this situation is exposed and dealt with. Surround these warehouses with the National Guard or anyone else with guns that you can find, commandeer these supplies and distribute them. We’ll settle up later, just as we’ve promised the workers who are being fired / sent home without pay so we can “flatten the curve.”

This is of a piece with the emphasis on conjuring up trillions of dollars to “save” the financial system as job one in dealing with this “existential” health crisis during which tens of thousands will die. The “market” is not up to this job so fuck it.

You’re either worried about saving lives or “efficient” price discovery–you can’t do both. It’s either an emergency or it’s not. I have heard that 3M is an AMERICAN company based in Minnesota–it’s time to start acting like it. Where the hell are YOU uber-patriot amy klobuchar? Get those people in line–you can put it on your resume for next time.

If I hear the words “moral hazard” one more time wrt to what’s going on right now I’m gonna puke.[/i]

o On a lighter note:

[url]https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/pathogen_resistance.png[/url]

Sure, but they have enough sauce and parmesan to go along with that?

[QUOTE=kriesel;541495]The major American news networks are biased [/QUOTE]IF that is so, it has nothing to do with what I posted. Are you disputing what I said, or just pretending to have a rebuttal so you can seem to win an argument?

[QUOTE=Uncwilly;541548]IF that is so, it has nothing to do with what I posted. Are you disputing what I said, or just pretending to have a rebuttal so you can seem to win an argument?[/QUOTE]
I feel you are mistaken about WHICH media are biased, or relative magnitudes of bias.

All this biased-or-not bickering is pointless - I keep saying, try to stick to data-driven and link-supported argumentation as much as possible. That includes the due diligence of occasionally following reports from known-to-have-an-ax-to-grind sources back to whence they drew their material.

For example, the Breitbart article notes the anti-communist bias of [i]Epoch Times[/i], but further notes one of its key sources is Caixin:
[quote]Citing funeral home directors and eyewitnesses, multiple reports suggest that the number of urns collected was far larger than that possible if Beijing had accurately reported the number of cases. The Epoch Times, an anti-communist newspaper that has documented skepticism of official government figures from within Wuhan since the onset of the pandemic, estimated over 32,000 deaths attributable to Chinese coronavirus in Wuhan in a report Sunday. The newspaper noted that the urns collected this weekend had amassed between January 23, when the lockdown began, to March 23, when families were first allowed to begin retrieving them.

[b]Citing sources in various Wuhan funeral homes and reports from other outlets such as the independent Chinese media outlet Caixin[/b], the Epoch Times concluded that Wuhan’s seven funeral homes possessed 40,000 urns, each urn containing the remains of one person, during the lockdown, suggesting that 40,000 people died in the city during that time. Discounting the average number of deaths a day in Wuhan in 2018, the latest year for which public statistics are available, the newspaper concluded that at least 32,140 people have died of Chinese coronavirus in Wuhan.[/quote]
So it would be far more useful to maybe peruse recent Caixin articles and post relevant ones here, instead of bitching about "your media source is way more biased than mine". Known-biased sources nonetheless often prove correct on a given subject, but the bias makes it imperative to seek independent confirmation.

Any further pure-bickering posts are gonna get memory-holed - links and representative-sample quotes, that's what we want.

Gleaned from the [url=https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/04/01/coronavirus-in-russia-the-latest-news-april-1-a69117]Moscow Times[/url]:

03/31/20 Russia confirmed 500 new coronavirus infections total 2,337
04/01/20 Russia confirmed 440 new coronavirus infections total 2,777.