Shortly AFTER?! [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decomposition[/url]

[QUOTE=kriesel;576294]Shortly AFTER?![/QUOTE]

Sure. Longer if cryogenics is brought to bear...

[QUOTE=chalsall;576284]For this particular data point, no. Evolution isn't aided. But in the aggregate, it is (read: some "non-believers" *will* be removed from the pool).[/quote]Not enough...[quote]Meant to be funny, and macabre, at the same time... :chalsall:[/QUOTE]Oh, I thought it was funnier than all get-out, a COVID denier getting it. Not to mention ironic.

It seems R's are quite averse to getting vaccinated, despite their Orange God pushing "Operation Warp Speed." Of course, the Orange God was also busily talking out of the other side of his mouth, denying the seriousness of the pandemic, denying the science, bashing Dr, Fauci, etc. I wonder how many R's are familiar with the name Mary Mallon.

But who has ever heard of Typhoid Tony? [url]https://www.history.com/news/10-things-you-may-not-know-about-typhoid-mary[/url]

[QUOTE=Dr Sardonicus;576262][url=https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-public-health-race-and-ethnicity-health-coronavirus-pandemic-585b21bb229c0049f2dec94927cc9789]Ted Nugent, who once dismissed COVID-19, sickened by virus[/url][/QUOTE]Irony. Irony of ironies, all is irony sayeth :paul:

Post hoc rides again...
 

There is a classic fallacy in argumentation known as "Post hoc, ergo propter hoc" (After this, therefore because of this). It is being used by anti-vaxxers to claim that the COVID vaccines have killed thousands of people.

The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) takes reports of "adverse events" following vaccines without checking whether they are actually caused by the vaccine. The website has a disclaimer that says so.

Of course, with reports of deaths the causes of death are checked to see whether they might be vaccine-related. None of the more than 2500 cases they'd checked as of late March had been. Of course, as with any ideologues, facts are of no concern to anti-vaxxers. Ideologues replace facts with ideology.

I note that 15 reports to VAERS of unusual and serious blood clots (cerebral venous sinus thrombosis), three of them fatal, in people who had received the J&J vaccine, were enough to cause the CDC and FDA to recommend a pause in administering the J&J vaccine, and also to alert physicians to the unusual nature of these clots, being accompanied by low platelet counts, which contraindicates the usual treatment with the anticoagulant heparin.

[QUOTE=VBCurtis;575807]Suicide rate is down from a normal year. The "we're in this together" group-fight proved stronger than despondency during 2020.

[COLOR=darkred]Moved from "Getting others to do the work on exponents I like (was: Trial Factoring Progress)"[/COLOR][/QUOTE]Source?
In May 2020, it was reported for Milwaukee county WI EMS calls that certain call types were drastically higher than usual; 70% higher mental health related calls, 54% higher drug ODs, 80% higher suicide attempts.
[URL]https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2020/05/07/ems-calls-show-54-spike-in-drug-overdoses-80-increase-in-suicide-attempts/[/URL]
If the pattern did not hold for the full year, but was a transient spike, that's probably a very good thing for the families involved.
Alberta EMS also reported a spike in opiod overdose calls [URL]https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/alberta/article-albertas-ems-teams-responded-to-spike-in-calls-related-to-opioid-use/[/URL]

EMS dispatch versus complaint type showed significant percentage changes for many types in Teheran (capital of Iran), see table 2 of [URL]https://escholarship.org/uc/item/90w3d0p2[/URL]
As did Roanoke VA: [URL]https://roanoke.com/news/local/roanoke-fire-ems-statistics-reflect-a-2020-changed-by-the-pandemic/article_160362f6-a163-11eb-a6d9-7398cf183168.html[/URL]

Stroke mortality was reported increased. [URL]https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/STROKEAHA.120.031975[/URL] The hypothesis there is reluctance to risk covid infection caused fewer patients to call EMS regarding stroke symptoms, followed by increased mortality of untreated stroke victims a week or two later, ~7.8% elevated occurrence.

"Monday, government statistics in Japan reported that more people died from suicide in October than from COVID-19 in all of 2020. A majority were women." [URL]https://www.wkyt.com/2020/12/04/study-reveals-increased-suicide-rates-across-us/[/URL]

[QUOTE=kriesel;576844]Source?[/QUOTE]
[url]https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/out-the-ivory-tower/202104/why-did-us-suicides-decrease-in-2020[/url]

On the other hand:
[url]https://parentology.com/breaking-news-teen-suicide-rates-rising-in-2020/[/url]
[url]https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-08-pandemic-effect-suicide-heightens.html[/url]
[url]https://fee.org/articles/youth-depression-suicide-increasing-during-pandemic-response/[/url]
[url]https://magazine.jhsph.edu/2020/covid-19-and-suicide-crisis-within-crisis[/url]
[url]https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/suicides-surge-in-2020-local-health-officials-say/2342504/[/url]

[QUOTE=kriesel;576844][QUOTE=VBCurtis;575807]Suicide rate is down from a normal year. The "we're in this together" group-fight proved stronger than despondency during 2020.

[COLOR=darkred]Moved from "Getting others to do the work on exponents I like (was: Trial Factoring Progress)"[/COLOR][/QUOTE]Source?[/QUOTE]The very next post in this thread after the one you quote, or at the post it links to, [url=https://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=575527&postcount=1338]this post[/url] to this thread from April 9[sup]th[/sup], has a link to the AP news story about suicides in the US being down nearly 6% last year.

[url=https://apnews.com/article/asia-pacific-bali-health-coronavirus-arts-and-entertainment-4ec6747d25b03487956e02651aefd7e4]Two influencers ordered off Bali after fake mask video prank[/url][quote]DENPASAR, Indonesia (AP) - A U.S.-based YouTuber and a Russian influencer were ordered off Indonesia's resort island of Bali on Friday after recording themselves defying mandatory mask-wearing with some imaginative makeup.

Clips of the video created by Josh Paler Lin and Leia Se and posted two weeks ago show the two duping supermarket guards with a painted surgical mask after they were refused entry because Se was unmasked.
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Although first-time violators of Bali's mask-wearing rule face fines of 1 million rupiah ($70) for foreigners and deportation after a second offense, the police wanted them removed off the island immediately.

"It's only proper to sanction them more severely, not just with a fine but also deportation," said Bali's civil service police unit head Dewa Nyoman Rai Dharmadi. "They are not only violating, but deliberately provoking in public to defy health guidelines."
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