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JuanTutors 2020-01-06 02:04

Any plans on making some software for Chromebooks
 
Just wondering whether there are any plans for a Chromebook version of software because I would not mind having my Chromebook at least Continuously TF a Mersenne, even if it's working on a Mersenne that I'm PRPing on a faster computer.

paulunderwood 2020-01-06 04:54

[QUOTE=JuanTutors;534350]Just wondering whether there are any plans for a Chromebook version of software because I would not mind having my Chromebook at least Continuously TF a Mersenne, even if it's working on a Mersenne that I'm PRPing on a faster computer.[/QUOTE]

Presumably, [URL="https://www.mersenneforum.org/mayer/README.html"]mlucas[/URL] will work on it.

JuanTutors 2020-01-06 05:45

[QUOTE=paulunderwood;534368]Presumably, [URL="https://www.mersenneforum.org/mayer/README.html"]mlucas[/URL] will work on it.[/QUOTE]

What about just factoring? I have an old laptop with a 100M Mersenne that I'm going to have to let expire or move to another computer because I don't use it often enough, something like 3 hours per week. This Chromebook is going to be used in essentially the same way. I am interested in kinda just doing TF on a Mersenne I am already doing PRP on, in case I get super lucky and coincidentally save myself some of a PRP test.

ewmayer 2020-01-06 20:03

Just received e-mail from the OP inquiring about using Mlucas for TF on his Chromebook, now see there is a also a new thread about this. My reply:
[quote]Note that trial factoring is best done by GPUs these days, since those are ideally suited for that work, i.e. get far better work-per-watt-hour than CPUs. There is no reason you can't do primality testing on a part-time basis, it will just take proportionally longer depending on how may hours per day your machine is doing such work.

First off, I need to know what kind of processor your machine has - if it's Intel core-based you'll want to use George Woltmans's Prime95/mprime code, which is the most efficient for Intel CPUs. If it's ARM-based, you should be able to use one of my precompiled Mlucas binaries for that architecture.

Easiest way to find out: In a command shell, do 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' and send me the resulting output.[/quote]

ewmayer 2020-01-07 02:57

OP replies:
[quote]I did not know how to open a command shell in a chromebook but this one is by Lenovo, and I went into chrome://system and found that the chips are from AMD. This is what it says, exactly: uname
Linux localhost 4.14.149-13635-gfe4171a450a3 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Dec 12 23:02:34 PST 2019 x86_64 AMD A6-9220C RADEON R5, 5 COMPUTE CORES 2C+3G AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux[/quote]
So this looks like a job for Prime95/mprime ... has anyone run that on a Chromebook?

Prime95 2020-01-07 04:26

1) Get mprime for Linux 64-bit at [url]https://mersenne.org/download[/url]
2) tar xvf to get mprime
3) ./mprime -m will bring up menus to let you choose the work you want to do

My concern is this: can a Chromebook dissipate the heat adequately?

chris2be8 2020-01-07 16:47

If the chromebook won't be running very often look for shortish tasks. P-1 factoring would be a good choice now.

Chris

ewmayer 2020-01-07 19:36

[QUOTE=Prime95;534459]1) Get mprime for Linux 64-bit at [url]https://mersenne.org/download[/url]
2) tar xvf to get mprime
3) ./mprime -m will bring up menus to let you choose the work you want to do

My concern is this: can a Chromebook dissipate the heat adequately?[/QUOTE]

Presumably the tar-extract can be done via the usual of gui-accessed etxrator utility, but the lack of linux-shell access is still annoying ... did a websearch for "how to open a command shell in a chromebook", found a bunch of identical tips along these lines:
[quote]Google's Chrome operating system is billed as the OS that moves the computing experience into the "cloud", but there is still an easy way to access a Command Line and Shell Prompt: Simply press the CTRL+ALT+T keyboard combination to get to the command line, then type Shell to get a shell prompt.[/quote]
Of course "moving things into the cloud" is tech-speak for "mass 24/7 harvesting of user data", but that's less a worry for DC-project crunching than using the device for privacy-sensitive things and letting one's kids use it.

Re. thermal load, do these have any kind of fan? Even if they do it's probably a crappy fan-for-ultraslim-notebook deal, which will likely last under a year under serious load, but it's always interesting to play with new-for-GIMPS hardware platforms and see their strengths and weaknesses.

pinhodecarlos 2020-01-07 20:05

ewmayer, Just wondering if you had consent from the OP to share here part of your private discussion. TIA.

ewmayer 2020-01-07 23:27

[QUOTE=pinhodecarlos;534528]ewmayer, Just wondering if you had consent from the OP to share here part of your private discussion. TIA.[/QUOTE]

Since the OP started a thread specifically to address the same issue he e-mailed me about, "how to do GIMPS work on Chromebook", I don't see a problem re-posting snips specifically about that topic to said thread. "My Chromebook runs AMD" is not exactly a privacy-sensitive issue. If OP has any objections, he is welcome to make them to me.

JuanTutors 2020-01-08 03:56

[QUOTE=pinhodecarlos;534528]ewmayer, Just wondering if you had consent from the OP to share here part of your private discussion. TIA.[/QUOTE]

No biggie. Not a sensitive topic.

[QUOTE=Prime95;534459]
My concern is this: can a Chromebook dissipate the heat adequately?[/QUOTE]

I DEFINITELY need access to a working Chromebook this weekend so I won't try this until Monday.

[QUOTE=ewmayer;534527]Re. thermal load, do these have any kind of fan? Even if they do it's probably a crappy fan-for-ultraslim-notebook deal, which will likely last under a year under serious load, but it's always interesting to play with new-for-GIMPS hardware platforms and see their strengths and weaknesses.[/QUOTE]

Now I'm motivated to try it :mooc: but I might want to look up fan specs first. I still have a few days with Best Buy. Also wondering if there is a temperature sensor on that computer.

paulunderwood 2020-01-08 05:20

If it Linux you might be able to install "lm-sensors" and run it with by entering [C]sensors[/C] -- there is even a gui for it which need a separate installation.

If the chromebook has cores then start with one core and measure the temperature and if it seems okay to do so, move onto 2 cores and so on (until the thing melts :wink:)


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