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chalsall 2019-11-26 17:14

[QUOTE=James Heinrich;531495]I thought you were using Colab only, not Kaggle?[/QUOTE]

Yes. Let's please be clear here.

Kaggle has said that "Prime hunting" is no longer "fair use".

Colab has never responded to my requests for clarification. And, as far as I am aware, have not blocked anyone (beyond the ~12 to 16 hours per day allotment).

kriesel 2019-11-26 19:47

[QUOTE=chalsall;531439]Hey all.

OK, just received this:



This is not unreasonable.[/QUOTE]It's quite UNreasonable. It makes a claim that's provably false. mprime uses NO gpu resources, yet they have included it in a list of applications they are objecting to as using too much gpu resources.

chalsall 2019-11-26 20:00

[QUOTE=kriesel;531516]It's quite UNreasonable.[/QUOTE]

I have slowly learnt over the years to read the message rather than the language.

This is one of the things which differentiates humans from compilers. :wink:

storm5510 2019-11-27 00:02

[QUOTE=James Heinrich;531495]I thought you were using Colab only, not Kaggle?[/QUOTE]

Oh, I must have missed something! You are correct. :blush:

storm5510 2019-11-27 13:17

A question: How difficult would it be to set up a notebook with [I]Prime95[/I], the Windows version? I created a folder on my drive and put the three binaries in it. Beyond this, I am clueless.

chalsall 2019-11-27 13:48

[QUOTE=storm5510;531557]A question: How difficult would it be to set up a notebook with [I]Prime95[/I], the Windows version?[/QUOTE]

Practically impossible.

In theory, I guess you could set up a Winblows VM inside the instance's Ubuntu VM, but I doubt it would be worth it, even if you could figure out a way to get to the interface. Remember that all incoming network traffic (which isn't already "established" by way of an outgoing initiated connection) is firewalled.

Dylan14 2019-11-27 14:22

[QUOTE=storm5510;531557]A question: How difficult would it be to set up a notebook with [I]Prime95[/I], the Windows version? I created a folder on my drive and put the three binaries in it. Beyond this, I am clueless.[/QUOTE]

Not possible, at least not readily. You would need virtualization, some virtualization software and an ISO image of Windows as well. However, based on trying to install VirtualBox on Colab, it appears virtualization is disabled. That basically leaves Bochs as the only feasible option to run a VM within a notebook, but that is a pain to set up, and it's slow.

kriesel 2019-11-27 14:40

[QUOTE=storm5510;531557]A question: How difficult would it be to set up a notebook with [I]Prime95[/I], the Windows version? I created a folder on my drive and put the three binaries in it. Beyond this, I am clueless.[/QUOTE]
It would be difficult to USE, also, being a gui app in a non-gui remote environment, unless you also put a remote desktop capability on it.

Why not use mprime there? See [URL]https://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=527910&postcount=3[/URL]
Vs.:
Load Bochs every session; buy a Windows license for it; run up a Windows VM; put a remote desktop environment on it somehow (TightVNC?); figure out the firewalling issues; etc. For your trouble, it is likely to perform slowly, with layered VMs.

storm5510 2019-11-27 15:10

[QUOTE=kriesel;531563]It would be difficult to USE, also, being a gui app in a non-gui remote environment, unless you also put a remote desktop capability on it.

[B]Why not use mprime there?[/B] See [URL]https://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=527910&postcount=3[/URL]...[/QUOTE]

I considered the GUI part and thought it would be rather difficult. I wanted to try something like this to get away from using a GPU all the time. Perhaps it would allow for more "up" time.

I am not familiar with [I]mprime[/I] as it is a Linux application. I believe it is a console program, not unlike [I]mfaktc[/I], and uses the same types of configuration files, such as [I]local.txt[/I] and [I]prime.txt[/I], based on what I've read. There seems to be a lot of code in your link. All of this is something I could not do. My programming skills relate to arcane and outdated languages going back to the late 1990's This is something I have not stayed current with.

kriesel 2019-11-27 15:43

[QUOTE=storm5510;531565]I considered the GUI part and thought it would be rather difficult. I wanted to try something like this to get away from using a GPU all the time. Perhaps it would allow for more "up" time.

I am not familiar with [I]mprime[/I] as it is a Linux application. I believe it is a console program, not unlike [I]mfaktc[/I], and uses the same types of configuration files, such as [I]local.txt[/I] and [I]prime.txt[/I], based on what I've read. There seems to be a lot of code in your link. All of this is something I could not do. My programming skills relate to arcane and outdated languages going back to the late 1990's This is something I have not stayed current with.[/QUOTE]
Just paste the sections in and go, after changing userid to your account. You don't have to write code or learn code. Using mprime would be FAR easier than trying to get a prime95 scenario to work. And I say that as a user of DOS from 1982 & Windows from 1993, and linux rarely. (A cpu is a terrible thing to waste, by leaving it idle.) I routinely use cpu and gpu in the SAME 12-hour Colab session. See the third code block in [url]https://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=528073&postcount=8[/url]

kracker 2019-11-27 16:16

Is the single,(likely memory shared) core worth the time to setup considering how much more powerful the GPU's are?

Well... it's one core sitting around, doing nothing so I guess... :razz:


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