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Let be H a subgroup of a Group G.
If Ha=Hb it follows that a^(-1)H=b^(-1)H Because ha=h'b, it follows that b=h^(-1)h'a. So b belongs to Ha. and b^(-1)=a^(-1)hh'^(-1). So b^(-1) belongs to a^(-1)H. So there is a bijection between b^(-1) and a^(-1)H and this proves that if Ha=Hb then a^(-1)H=b^(-1)H???? And what about the bijection Ha>a^(-1)H? |
[QUOTE=enzocreti;516732]Let be H a subgroup of a Group G.
If Ha=Hb it follows that a^(-1)H=b^(-1)H [/QUOTE] Hint: \(H^{-1}=H\). |
And so?
[QUOTE=Nick;516734]Hint: \(H^{-1}=H\).[/QUOTE]
And so? |
[QUOTE=enzocreti;516735]And so?[/QUOTE]
For more detail, see the proof of proposition 82 in our Number Theory discussion subforum[URL="https://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=21904"] here[/URL] |
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[QUOTE=Nick;516736]For more detail, see the proof of proposition 82 in our Number Theory discussion subforum[URL="https://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=21904"] here[/URL][/QUOTE]
H=Hab^(-1) only if Ha=Hb? |
[QUOTE=enzocreti;516753]H=Hab^(-1) only if Ha=Hb?[/QUOTE]
Yes, if and only if. |
now it is clearer
yes now it is clearer thank you
Ha=Hb Hab^(-1)=H |
If xH=yH, then Hx^(-1)=Hy^(-1).
I tried a proof:
If xH=yH then xh=yh' for some h and h' belonging to H. This yields: h'h^(-1)=y^(-1)(x^(-1))^(-1) ...follows h^(-1)x^(-1)=h'y^(-1) because this must be true for all h and h' belonging to H, then Hx^(-1)=Hy^(-1) Is this correct? |
[QUOTE=enzocreti;516815]Is this correct?[/QUOTE]
Nearly! Suppose \(xH=yH\). Take any \(z\in Hx^{-1}\). Then \(z=h_1x^{-1}\) for some \(h_1\in H\). So \(z^{-1}=(h_1x^{-1})^{-1}=xh_1^{-1}\) and \(h_1^{-1}\in H\) so \(z^{-1}\in xH\). But \(xH=yH\) so \(z^{-1}=yh_2\) for some \(h_2\in H\) as well. Hence \(z=(yh_2)^{-1}=h_2^{-1}y^{-1}\) and \(h_2^{-1}\in H\) so \(z\in Hy^{-1}\). This proves that \(Hx^{-1}\subset Hy^{=1}\), and \(Hy^{-1}\subset Hx^{-1}\) follows by symmetry, so they are equal. |
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Nice proof now I completely understood! Thanks
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only one thing...
only one thing I don't understand well
3rd row: z^(-1)=(h1x^(-1))^(-1)=xh1^(-1) it couldnt be the inverse? = h1^(-1)x? so z^(-1) couldnt belong to Hx instead of xH? |
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