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Unfurled Mersenne Primes
Hi all,
I would like to introduce to you the concept of Unfurled-Mersenne-Primes: M11@1 = M11 = 2^11 - 1^11 = 2047 is not a prime number. However the Unfurled-Mersenne-Number: M11@5 = 313968931 is a prime number. Let's define Mp@n as Mp@n = (n+1)^p - n^p For all primes p and positive integers n. Generally all prime factors q of Mp@n are such that: p | (q-1) Thank you for your time. :smile::paul: |
[QUOTE=a1call;494142]Hi all,
I would like to introduce to you the concept of [STRIKE]Unfurled-Mersenne-Primes[/STRIKE]: [/QUOTE] Please don't. Things that already have a name don't need another name. They are generalized repunit primes (or if you want, uber-generalized repunit primes, that is with fractional b = u/v; and then, in your case - with only u=v+1) [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mersenne_prime#Other_generalized_Mersenne_primes[/URL] Tons of them are known. [URL="http://www.primenumbers.net/prptop/searchform.php?form=a%5En-b%5En&action=Search"]http://www.primenumbers.net/prptop/searchform.php?form=a%5En-b%5En&action=Search[/URL] [SPOILER]And of course they only have factors of form 2kp+1, that's bloody obvious.[/SPOILER] |
Hi all,
I would like to introduce to you the revised concept of Unfurled-Mersenne-Primes. Mp@n = (2^(p^(n+1))-1) / (2^(p^n)-1) For all primes p and positive integers n. Mp@n may only be prime if Mp is prime. As an example M3@1=73 Thank you for your time.:smile: |
Cyclotomic primes. What else is new?
Ecclesiastes 1:10 |
[QUOTE=Batalov;494151]Cyclotomic primes. What else is new?
Ecclesiastes 1:10[/QUOTE] I'm afraid that stuff as intriguing as they seem are over my head. But thank you for taking the time to try and educate me.:smile: As for the Bible-Studies, perhaps you have heard of Newfoundland Province in Canada::smile: [QUOTE]The name "Newfoundland" is a translation of the Portuguese Terra Nova, which literally means "new land" and is also reflected in the French name for the Province's island part (Terre-Neuve). The influence of early Portuguese exploration is also reflected in the name of Labrador, which derives from the surname of the Portuguese navigator João Fernandes Lavrador.[10] Labrador's name in the Inuttitut language (spoken in Nunatsiavut) is Nunatsuak, meaning "the big land" (a common English nickname for Labrador).[B] Newfoundland's Inuttitut name is Ikkarumikluak meaning "place of many shoals".[/B][/QUOTE] [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newfoundland_and_Labrador#Etymology[/url] In any case new or prehistoric as it may be, I can only find the following: *** 73 *** M3@1 = P2 is Prime. *** 262657 *** M3@2 = P6 is Prime. *** 4432676798593 *** M7@1 = P13 is Prime. Has there been any attempts at primality testing M521@1 which is a 81556 dd integer? Thanks again for your time. |
[QUOTE=a1call;494154]
Has there been any attempts at primality testing M521@1 which is a 81556 dd integer? [/QUOTE] [CODE]time ./pfgw64 -f -q"(2^(521^(1+1))-1)/(2^521^1-1)" PFGW Version 3.7.10.64BIT.20150809.x86_Dev [GWNUM 28.7] (2^(521^(1+1))-1)/(2^521^1-1) has factors: 8143231 real 0m1.743s user 0m1.724s sys 0m0.000s [/CODE] |
Cool thanks.:smile:
My Pari code was stuck On ispseudoprime(a) as well as isprime(a,1) and isprime(a) Not sure why. For the record OEIS has been searched in the past and contains a sequence containing the 1st two primes: [url]https://oeis.org/search?q=73%2C+262657%2C&sort=&language=&go=Search[/url] But none containing all 3 primes: [url]https://oeis.org/search?q=73%2C+262657%2C+4432676798593&sort=&language=&go=Search[/url] |
There will be only finite number of primes of this sparse form.
One more is (2^59^2-1)/(2^59-1) [url]http://oeis.org/A156585[/url] : 2, 3, 7, 59 |
[QUOTE=a1call;494158]Cool thanks.:smile:
My Pari code was stuck On ispseudoprime(a) as well as isprime(a,1) and isprime(a) Not sure why. [/QUOTE] Obviously, ispseudoprime() does shallow factoring and will take a long while without FFT, but you should have first tried factor(N,10000000) or have written a forprime() loop that bails on the result of a % operation being 0. |
[QUOTE=paulunderwood;494161]Obviously, ispseudoprime() does shallow factoring and will take a long while without FFT, but you should have first tried factor(N,10000000) or have written a forprime() loop that bails on the result of a % operation being 0.[/QUOTE]
You are absolutely correct. It's just that I thought all of these would do a trial by division regularly/periodically for small primes rather than loop hopelessly to infinitude in whatever they do. I think I need a nap now. It's been a busy morning so far:paul: I will update my code with limits in isprime when I get up.:smile: |
[QUOTE=Batalov;494159]There will be only few of the primes of that sparse form.
One more is (2^59^2-1)/(2^59-1)[/QUOTE] But M59 is not prime. That ruins the definition as well as my nap. |
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