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pinhodecarlos 2018-09-25 05:10

[QUOTE=RichD;496707]What did filtering finally say was the total unique relations? I've had tens of thousands of these but still manage to have enough good relations out of the remaining 200M+ to build a matrix.

I still think someone is hacking the BOINC batch files and submitting previous results for a different job to "pad" their stats. No one seems to be able to identify it.

Here is a related [url=https://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=432038&postcount=5]post[/url] to getting tons of error -11.[/QUOTE]

[url]https://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=493961&postcount=2[/url]

richs 2018-09-25 13:57

11611_144 factored
 
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[QUOTE=richs;496109]Reserving 11611_144 on 14e.[/QUOTE]

[CODE]p72 factor: 112045998427219090871953040117667258301569847152699559565607504451497301
p86 factor: 63264787949930725243445414832953024183897855766018170835974420877209157378834269266207[/CODE]

Approximately 47.1 hours on 2 threads Core i3-2310M with 4 GB memory for a 5.70M matrix at TD = 70. Log attached and log at [URL="https://pastebin.com/KsDS7zDh"]https://pastebin.com/KsDS7zDh[/URL]

Factors added to FDB.

debrouxl 2018-09-26 06:41

In a poly, the deg: line is indeed superfluous, but I usually let it in when it's there.

unconnected 2018-09-26 11:19

I've downloaded .poly/.fb/.ini files from 50009_239 and run job with good old factMsieve.pl - it goes well and produces legal relations. Let's try queue slightly modified poly (deg and lss params were removed, m changed to Y0/Y1 as in others polys) for small range (say, 20M-30M) and see if it helps.

[CODE]n: 500000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000009
skew: 1.62
c6: 1
c0: 18
Y0: -10000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Y1: 1
type: snfs
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.7
alambda: 2.7
[/CODE]

debrouxl 2018-09-26 11:37

Well... Multiple near-repdigit numbers have used "m:" lines over time just fine on both RSALS and NFS@Home, so there's something else going on :smile:
I haven't yet managed to convince myself that it's time to resieve, but maybe I'm just dense.

In the DB, I noticed that there was another, older entry mistakenly named 50009_239 (should have been "50009_238"), which reads:
[code]
(1131,1489406743,1489407441,1489407441,
'50009_239','50009_239',4,0,0,'Near-repdigit','SNFS','','n: 500000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000009\r\nm: 5000000000000000000000000000000000000000\r\ndeg: 6\r\nc6: 16\r\nc0: 45\r\nskew: 1.19\r\ntype: snfs\r\nlss: 1\r\nrl
im: 120000000\r\nalim: 120000000\r\nlpbr: 30\r\nlpba: 30\r\nmfbr: 60\r\nmfba: 60\r\nrlambda: 2.7\r\nalambda: 2.7\r\n',20000000,120000000,120000000,'239.40',30,'Dmitry Domanov: p55 * p75 * p110',0,2,6248,'',6285
215001,109771593,'HGSCp9xB')[/code]

[url]https://pastebin.com/HGSCp9xB[/url] matches [url]http://stdkmd.com/nrr/c.cgi?q=50009_238[/url] .

unconnected 2018-09-26 11:52

Lionel, that's the point! We've sieved job for 50009_238 once again, I've checked this by running current dataset with 50009_238 poly:
[CODE]

Msieve v. 1.54 (SVN 1025)
Wed Sep 26 11:43:59 2018
random seeds: 2bde25a4 300ea441
factoring 50000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000009 (239 digits)
no P-1/P+1/ECM available, skipping
commencing number field sieve (239-digit input)
R0: -5000000000000000000000000000000000000000
R1: 1
A0: 45
A1: 0
A2: 0
A3: 0
A4: 0
A5: 0
A6: 16
skew 1.62, size 6.797e-12, alpha 0.213, combined = 4.894e-13 rroots = 0

commencing relation filtering
estimated available RAM is 7631.3 MB
commencing duplicate removal, pass 1
error -1 reading relation 9144250
read 10M relations
error -9 reading relation 11675596
error -1 reading relation 19265553
error -5 reading relation 19400233
read 20M relations
error -9 reading relation 24810475
error -15 reading relation 24810782
error -15 reading relation 26006753
...
[/CODE]So, it is necessary to resieve the whole 50009_239 job.

debrouxl 2018-09-26 12:05

Meh. In this case, some files were not regenerated. And IIRC, it's not the first time this occurs. Too bad we need to resieve.

We probably want to somehow help detect or prevent this on the production versions, before the never-worked-on queue management improvements ( [url]https://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=21356[/url] ) become available.
Looks like the production code base has changes not available in the internal, privately shared version derived from the production code base over 2 years ago: a page linked from the management interface doesn't exist in the internal version...

swellman 2018-09-27 15:28

[QUOTE=unconnected;496807]I've downloaded .poly/.fb/.ini files from 50009_239 and run job with good old factMsieve.pl - it goes well and produces legal relations. Let's try queue slightly modified poly (deg and lss params were removed, m changed to Y0/Y1 as in others polys) for small range (say, 20M-30M) and see if it helps.

[CODE]n: 500000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000009
skew: 1.62
c6: 1
c0: 18
Y0: -10000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Y1: 1
type: snfs
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.7
alambda: 2.7
[/CODE][/QUOTE]

Well I’ve test sieved this and it seems to work correctly. On 14e, yield is > 2.7 @Q=20M.

I’d be happy to enqueue this job as you describe over a small range, and then you can test the resulting .dat file. If it works, I can then increase the upper bound of Q to give the full result.

I assume you want me to delete the current job entitled “50009_239”, correct?

unconnected 2018-09-27 15:38

Yes, that's right. And please give a unique name for new job to not interfere with erroneous named 50009_239 task somewhere in database mentioned by Lionel.

swellman 2018-09-28 00:19

[QUOTE=unconnected;496916]Yes, that's right. And please give a unique name for new job to not interfere with erroneous named 50009_239 task somewhere in database mentioned by Lionel.[/QUOTE]

Done.

debrouxl 2018-09-28 11:46

I've just expanded the upper bound for 50009_239A from 30M to 100M.

Also, Greg sent me a copy of the latest production code.


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