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Another idea would be to see which exponents had the least GHz-days spent on them P-1'ing, of course that's most likely a vastly different story.
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I like that idea!

James, if you increased the upper percentage to 3.4%, that would expose a lot of exponents for the "under 20M unfactored" project.

[QUOTE=James Heinrich;550666]Naturally it's [i]possible[/i], but it comes at the cost of an exponential increase in candidates (and a bit more time required to generate the list every night).

Example numbers (these are from 6-month old data so aren't currently exact, but show the general trend):[code]1% = 2,649 rows
2% = 184,745 rows
3% = 496,116 rows <-- current setting
4% = 1,325,638 rows[/code]This page is supposed to help find badly-PM1'd exponents, I don't think PM1 probability >3% really qualifies under that definition.

But, keeping an open mind, what kind of % limit and exponent range were you thinking of?[/QUOTE]

Couldn't you simply set a limit for the number of rows (e.g. 100,000) and let the percentage be up to whatever user sets?

[QUOTE=kruoli;550669]So that data is not generated on demand but rather a small query on that precalculated data you were mentioning)?[/QUOTE]Correct. Due to the way the data is split across many tables (10 for exponent status, 1000 for factors, one each for P-1 and LL status) it's easier to do all the expensive queries to select potential candidates once per day and query on that subset.

[QUOTE=Viliam Furik;550675]Couldn't you simply set a limit for the number of rows (e.g. 100,000) and let the percentage be up to whatever user sets?[/QUOTE]No, since the data is generated for queries against 60 tables (one per 10M range), and this is done once per day to generate the dataset on which user queries are performed. The user has no input on this process.

[QUOTE=kruoli;550669]One could now propose some new upper percentage like 5 % (IMHO at least somewhat reasonable) or 10 % (still applicable for smaller exponents (such with up to six digits and smaller ones with seven digits)[/QUOTE][QUOTE=masser;550673]if you increased the upper percentage to 3.4%, that would expose a lot of exponents for the "under 20M unfactored" project.[/QUOTE]How about this compromise: <10M now goes to 10%, <50M goes to 5%, <600M to 3%

[QUOTE=kruoli;550669]Another idea would be to see which exponents had the least GHz-days spent on them P-1'ing, of course that's most likely a vastly different story.[/QUOTE]It is a different story, but the data is there. Of course, you can do a terrible P-1 for 10GHd at 500M and a great one for 1GHd at 0M, so some thought would have to be put in about what exponents are worth looking at and how you'd want to search for them

[QUOTE=kruoli;550669]Maybe it is "necessary" to have a separate site for the high bound P-1'ing community.[/QUOTE]That's doable. My data is here for the community to use, if you want to send me more details about exactly what would be your ideal search tool I'll see what I can do. By email would be better (for me) than forum or PM.

[QUOTE=James Heinrich;550682]How about this compromise: <10M now goes to 10%, <50M goes to 5%, <600M to 3%.[/QUOTE]

For now I can say that (this in particular) sounds really good! :smile: It'll be helping for sure.

[QUOTE=James Heinrich;550682]

How about this compromise: <10M now goes to 10%, <50M goes to 5%, <600M to 3%
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Thank you! That would be great.

If someone looks up a factor and it is not a previously known, mersenne.ca can figure out which exponent it belongs to. Does it then record it as a known factor, or does that info get lost?

And why won't mersenne.ca accept results without UID's? Misfit complains about UID's, so I turned it off.

[QUOTE=Uncwilly;550775]If someone looks up a factor and it is not a previously known, mersenne.ca can figure out which exponent it belongs to. Does it then record it as a known factor, or does that info get lost?[/quote]Yes, the factor is recorded as a new factor of unknown origin. Presumably person looking up said previously-unknown factor will also submit their factoring effort result to mersenne.org / mersenne.ca (as appropriate) and the effort will be recorded, but even if they don't the factor will remain known.

[QUOTE=Uncwilly;550775]And why won't mersenne.ca accept results without UID's? Misfit complains about UID's, so I turned it off.[/QUOTE]There was a good reason why I started enforcing UIDs for TF results at the beginning of 2020, although the precise reason escapes my memory at the moment. I suspect it was to do with either the structure of recording factors/effort or tracking assignments and/or abuse. While I don't remember exactly what it was, I do remember it was important and I won't be reverting the requirement.

I'm not familiar with MISFIT, other than it exists. If it complains at valid result lines with UID section then you should get the author to fix it. Alternately, since results submitted to mersenne.ca will only include exponents >1000M you can (and perhaps should) use the provided [url=https://www.mersenne.ca/tf1G]scripts[/url] (batch/bash/python) for work management.

I was mainly messing around. Seeing if it was fun. Then I got thinking about the Billion Digit range.

For the sake of it, here are the results files that Misfit tried to send to PrimeNet.

[QUOTE=Uncwilly;550783]here are the results files that Misfit tried to send to PrimeNet.[/QUOTE]There's your problem. PrimeNet doesn't support exponents >1000M, you need to submit the results to [url]https://www.mersenne.ca/bulk-factors.php[/url]
Hence my suggestion to use the provided scripts to automate work fetching and submission.
I don't know if MISFIT supports mersenne.ca TF, it's quite possible it does not.

I've taken the liberty of submitting those 98 results on your behalf.

[QUOTE=James Heinrich;550785] you need to submit the results to [url]https://www.mersenne.ca/bulk-factors.php[/url][/QUOTE]I tried that (manually) and got the rejection there.

I took your results and prepended the UID section (I used "[color=blue]UID: Uncwilly/tf1G, [/color]") to each line and it accepted them fine. [url=https://www.mersenne.ca/exponent/2700965339]e.g.[/url]