Is it just me? or is the forum server busy?
 

It was not. [URL="http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/mersenneforum.org"]I checked[/URL]. For a minute I was afraid you all banned me, hehe :razz:
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Wed Mar 14 13:50:44 UTC 2018 up 35 days, 10:26, 2 users, load averages: 32.20, [B]109.09, 75.63 [/B][/quote]What happened?

Been getting a lot of this today from the mersenneforum.org server.[CODE]The server is too busy at the moment. Please try again later.[/CODE]When my crappy slow internet lets anything through, that is. Come on, fiber! Maybe by yearend.

Same for me, very unusual:

[CODE]The server is too busy at the moment. Please try again later.[/CODE]

When the (shared) server that the forum is hosted on exceeds a load average of 32, the forum software is configured to shut down.

This shouldn't happen very often.

:mike:

[quote]The server is too busy at the moment. Please try again later.[/quote]I've been getting a lot of that recently. I wondered if it was swarms of bots visiting...

Nothing here in U.K. so I suppose PM is doing a good job.

[QUOTE=pinhodecarlos;510669]Nothing here in U.K. so I suppose PM is doing a good job.[/QUOTE]
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Oh wait.I was taking 'PM' to mean 'The PM'. In light of her current difficulties, I found ironic humor in the perceived non-sequitur.

What does PM mean in this context?
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I've seen it from time to time over the past couple months, too.

A high load average isn't bad if there are lots of CPUs in the system.

[QUOTE=pinhodecarlos;510669]Nothing here in U.K. so I suppose PM is doing a good job.[/QUOTE]

I have had it a number of times.

[QUOTE=henryzz;510754]I have had it a number of times.[/QUOTE]

Same here.

It won't be a function of where you're located; it's a server-side issue. When it's happening, everyone will experience it.

Mike /might/ want to bring this issue up with the provider. If it isn't a DoS against the forum, another client on the same machine is impacting him.

@Pinhodecarlos: Who/What is PM? The only meanings I know of are Prime Minister, Post Meridian, Private Message, and Promethium.

[QUOTE=Stargate38;510814]@Pinhodecarlos: Who/What is PM? The only meanings I know of are Prime Minister, Post Meridian, Private Message, and Promethium.[/QUOTE]Post Mortem and Preventive Maintenance are two others I''ve used moderatel yoften, though the latter is usually pronounced provocative maintenance. I rarely use picometre in common parlance.

WP to the rescue

See: [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PM[/url] for a lot more options.

194 in all:

[url]https://www.acronymfinder.com/PM.html[/url]

The quite popular Romanian version is missing there...
Few explanations [URL="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pula%20mea"]here[/URL] and [URL="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pula"]here[/URL], however quite summary... we honestly expected to click the link and find, according with our former "education", about 200 pages of expressions, explanations, details... :razz:

[QUOTE=Mark Rose;510722]A high load average isn't bad if there are lots of CPUs in the system.[/QUOTE]We have been told there are eight cores on the shared server.

:mike:

[QUOTE=pinhodecarlos;510669]Nothing here in U.K. so I suppose PM is doing a good job.[/QUOTE]

I think the PM is doing an appalling job. Bravo for the Speaker Bercow who is actually doing his job. LOL
I'm sure you had a totally different thing in mind when you wrote that!

[QUOTE=Xyzzy;511088]We have been told there are eight cores on the shared server.[/QUOTE]

If I was paying money for this shared server (which you are, and take collections towards), and this kept happening, I would at the very least raise a trouble ticket....

[QUOTE=rudy235;511165]I think the PM is doing an appalling job. Bravo for the Speaker Bercow who is actually doing his job. LOL
I'm sure you had a totally different thing in mind when you wrote that![/QUOTE]


I was being sarcastic...

[QUOTE=pinhodecarlos;511447]I was being sarcastic...[/QUOTE]

To put on the table, I was being serious.

Many of us spend not a small amount of money and effort running this community.

It costs money (and talent) to be able to do this kind of thing. Because we believe it is valuable.

Thankless is something we've become comfortable with....

@Xyyxy Are you able to log the periods which this is happening? It seems to be happening more and more frequently. Possibly worth collecting data to complain with.

Also, is it possible to turn off the forum shutting down? Yes it will be slow but it will work to some extent.

[QUOTE=chalsall;511439]If I was paying money for this shared server (which you are, and take collections towards), and this kept happening, I would at the very least raise a trouble ticket....[/QUOTE]Hear, hear. Very appreciative of this forum and those that make it work.
Access was again pretty schrecklich midday today, although my even more frequently unreliable ISP masked some of that. Response time of both are usually pretty good when I ought to be sleeping. The ISP situation _might_ be getting addressed this summer if several more signups for fiber than defections from it occur in my neighborhood in the next several days.

(English synonyms given online for Deutsche schrecklich are awful, terrible, horrible)

[QUOTE=henryzz;512056]Also, is it possible to turn off the forum shutting down? Yes it will be slow but it will work to some extent.[/QUOTE]We will experiment with raising the load limit thingy a bit.

Please let us know in a few days if this is still an issue.

:mike:

I got it again.

[QUOTE=Uncwilly;514503]I got it again.[/QUOTE]

I get this once in a while too, I just tell myself "oh well time to read more maff" and shut off the internet and come back another time. :lol:

[QUOTE=dcheuk;514601]I get this once in a while too, I just tell myself "oh well time to read more maff" and shut off the internet and come back another time. :lol:[/QUOTE]That's all well and good, unless you've just created and submitted a rather long post reply... and are late for something else...

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DDoS, or just bad hosting?
 

About 20 minutes of downtime.

113.33 load average.

Sounds like we need more bandwidth. OTOH, Why UTC+666? Wouldn't that be the same as UTC-6, as 666 mod 24=18 (or -6), or are the forum pets being silly again?

Are there any straightforward ways - perhaps load-dependent ones - to cut page-load bandwidth when load is high? E.g. I browse with image rendering disabled, so only see the bandwidth-hoggish avatars if I click on them. Now I know lots of folks have a childish love for seeing the avs, but perhaps when load is high they could be disabled? Similarly with the post-edit icons menu - even sans images I see the associated text and can select one just fine. I wouldn't mind an occasional "images have been temporarily disabled due to heavy system load" message if it would decrease the outages. Visual - as opposed to zipfile and text - attachments might also be a candidate for such treatment.

[QUOTE=ewmayer;519041]Are there any straightforward ways - perhaps load-dependent ones - to cut page-load bandwidth when load is high? E.g. I browse with image rendering disabled, so only see the bandwidth-hoggish avatars if I click on them. Now I know lots of folks have a childish love for seeing the avs, but perhaps when load is high they could be disabled? Similarly with the post-edit icons menu - even sans images I see the associated text and can select one just fine. I wouldn't mind an occasional "images have been temporarily disabled due to heavy system load" message if it would decrease the outages. Visual - as opposed to zipfile and text - attachments might also be a candidate for such treatment.[/QUOTE]I think the load averages are CPU bandwidth, not network bandwidth.

[QUOTE=retina;519062]I think the load averages are CPU bandwidth, not network bandwidth.[/QUOTE]

What other major forms of CPU bandwidth are in play here besides serving up pages? Database management, perhaps?

[QUOTE=ewmayer;519063]What other major forms of CPU bandwidth are in play here besides serving up pages? Database management, perhaps?[/QUOTE]I got the impression from Xyzzy's comments that it is other users on the shared host machine using up the CPU.

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Thu Jun 13 12:56:36 UTC 2019 up 5 days, 1:33, 6 users, load averages: 208.42, 80.57, 33.84[/quote]

As seems to happen with annoying frequency, in this instance the message appeared after I hit the "submit message" button to post, meaning everything I'd put in the message text window simply went bye-bye.

Luckily, I am in the habit of composing my messages in a text editor before hitting the "quote" or "post reply" buttons, and then pasting them in. I then hit "preview post" and try to catch the typos I inevitably make before hitting the "submit reply" button.

If I have made revisions in the text widow, and it just sits there after I hit "submit message," I assume it's going to boot me off with a "too busy" message, and copy the contents of the window and paste them into my text editor before they disappear into the void.

[QUOTE=Dr Sardonicus;519245]As seems to happen with annoying frequency, in this instance the message appeared after I hit the "submit message" button to post, meaning everything I'd put in the message text window simply went bye-bye.

Luckily, I am in the habit of composing my messages in a text editor before hitting the "quote" or "post reply" buttons, and then pasting them in. I then hit "preview post" and try to catch the typos I inevitably make before hitting the "submit reply" button.

If I have made revisions in the text widow, and it just sits there after I hit "submit message," I assume it's going to boot me off with a "too busy" message, and copy the contents of the window and paste them into my text editor before they disappear into the void.[/QUOTE]
Sometimes, as happened again this morning, initiating an in-browser edit is ok, but when saving the change the server is too busy, and there's a popup offering only one action, cancel posting the edit. Copying the edited post from browser edit box / paste to local text editor can work to save the edit for later retry, if done before accepting the cancel. Sometimes it takes a LOT of retries to get one edit posted. Fielding lots of attempts and serving up all those too-busy responses, for a single small edit that's being persistently blocked, take some resources too.

Yeah. I had just finished typing in my combined proofs of RH and P=NP when the server decided it was too busy to care and ate my submission.

I'm too lazy to type it all over again.

The margins on server capacity are too small to post the proofs here.
Same goes for the solution to practical fusion based electricity production, the cure for cancer, and proof of quantum gravity.

A new record for usage?
 

[quote]Sat Jul 6 14:26:24 UTC 2019 up 23 days, 1:19, 3 users, load averages: [b][color=red]249.79[/color][/b], 108.51, 48.2[/quote]:showoff:

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