[QUOTE=preda;560509]In general I would recommend a smaller -maxAlloc, e.g. "-maxAlloc 18G" (just to be sure you don't overfill the GPU RAM which would produce a slowdown), but in this case you ran without P-1 so that doesn't matter.
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RTX 3090 has 24 GB of VRAM. I think -maxAlloc 18G is ok... (Unless I don't understand, how maxAlloc works.)

Thanks a lot indeed! Now we finally know. With 619µsec for this exponent, the Radeon VII remains the king. Even underclocked and running at 150 W, the Radeon VII is still twice as fast as the RTX 3090. I will cancel my order for the RTX 3080 now.and hope for the best with the new RX 6900 XT.

It is no surprise really: [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_30_series[/url]

Gpuowl and CUDALucas uses "double precision", and 3090 has only 1/32 the double precision performance compared to single precision performance (918 GFLOPS vs 29389 GFLOPS). It has been like that for many years now with Nvidia consumer cards.

With 29389 GFLOPS single precision it should do really well at trial factoring with mfaktc, probably one of the fastest cards for trial factoring including the expensive Tesla cards.

[QUOTE=aheeffer;560528]With 619µsec for this exponent, the Radeon VII remains the king.[/QUOTE]
The AMD RX Vega 64 remains the second winner in the consumer card category.

[COLOR="Blue"]Benchmarks of 77936867 for the following graphics cards would be interesting.[/COLOR]
[B][I]AMD Radeon RX 6900/6800/6700 XT[/B] when available
[B]Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080/3070, 3060 TI, 2080 Ti
Nvidia Titan RTX, Titan V
Nvidia A100 SXM4[/I][/B]

[QUOTE=aheeffer;560528]Thanks a lot indeed! Now we finally know. With 619µsec for this exponent, the Radeon VII remains the king. Even underclocked and running at 150 W, the Radeon VII is still twice as fast as the RTX 3090. I will cancel my order for the RTX 3080 now.and hope for the best with the new RX 6900 XT.[/QUOTE]

DON'T CANCEL! There is still a chance.

Firstly, it can still be darn fast in TF, if the issue of it not being as-darn-fast-as-expected resolves. (It [I]should[/I] be more than twice as fast in TF as RTX 2080Ti, but it is only a bit faster. I guess that there's something wrong with the way the mixed GPU cores (half of all cores) are supposed to work. They are meant to be able to do either INT32 or FP32 (BTW FP32 is what we want for TF), but they don't seem to fill the "or FP32" part of the deal.

Secondly, Preda is researching the possibility of computing the DP (FP64) numbers by expressing them as SP (FP32). It may or may not make it even faster than Radeon VII if working as intended.

[QUOTE=moebius;560537]The AMD RX Vega 64 remains the second winner in the consumer card category.

[COLOR="Blue"]Benchmarks of 77936867 for the following graphics cards would be interesting.[/COLOR]
[B][I]AMD Radeon RX 6900/6800/6700 XT[/B] when available
[B]Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080/3070, 3060 TI, 2080 Ti
Nvidia Titan RTX, Titan V
Nvidia A100 SXM4[/I][/B][/QUOTE]

I am not sure, where did you pull the name 3060Ti from, but I can give you 2080Ti results.

[QUOTE=Viliam Furik;560516]RTX 3090 has 24 GB of VRAM. I think -maxAlloc 18G is ok... (Unless I don't understand, how maxAlloc works.)[/QUOTE]

I have realised that you recommended 18G, against original 20G. Still, I think that's safe. Unless he is not running another VRAM hungry program.

[QUOTE=Viliam Furik;560549]I am not sure, where did you pull the name 3060Ti from, but I can give you 2080Ti results.[/QUOTE][URL="https://www.techradar.com/news/nvidia-might-fight-amd-big-navi-with-an-rtx-3060-ti"]https://www.techradar.com/news/nvidia-might-fight-amd-big-navi-with-an-rtx-3060-ti[/URL]
Yes, please do so, I'm particularly interested in the comparison of the 2080 TI and the fictitious RTX 3060 TI and the RTX 3070. The forum user[COLOR="Red"] xx005fs[/COLOR] apparently even has a Titan V, maybe he is reading this thread.

[QUOTE=moebius;560552][URL="https://www.techradar.com/news/nvidia-might-fight-amd-big-navi-with-an-rtx-3060-ti"]https://www.techradar.com/news/nvidia-might-fight-amd-big-navi-with-an-rtx-3060-ti[/URL]
Yes, please do so, I'm particularly interested in the comparison of the 2080 TI and the fictitious RTX 3060 TI and the RTX 3070. The forum user xx005fs apparently even has a Titan V, maybe he is reading this thread.[/QUOTE]

[CODE]2020-10-21 18:22:29 gpuowl v6.11-364-g36f4e2a
2020-10-21 18:22:29 config: -proof 8
2020-10-21 18:22:29 config: -nospin
2020-10-21 18:22:29 config: -iters 300000 -log 10000
2020-10-21 18:22:29 device 0, unique id ''
2020-10-21 18:22:29 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 FFT: 4M 1K:8:256 (18.58 bpw)
2020-10-21 18:22:29 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 Expected maximum carry32: 583B0000
2020-10-21 18:22:30 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 OpenCL args "-DEXP=77936867u -DWIDTH=1024u -DSMALL_HEIGHT=256u -DMIDDLE=8u -DPM1=0 -DMM_CHAIN=1u -DMM2_CHAIN=2u -DMAX_ACCURACY=1 -DWEIGHT_STEP_MINUS_1=0xa.c42d0d7cec038p-5 -DIWEIGHT_STEP_MINUS_1=-0x8.0e50c8817ddf8p-5 -cl-unsafe-math-optimizations -cl-std=CL2.0 -cl-finite-math-only "
2020-10-21 18:22:30 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0

2020-10-21 18:22:30 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 OpenCL compilation in 0.01 s
2020-10-21 18:22:31 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 0 loaded: blockSize 400, 0000000000000003
2020-10-21 18:22:31 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 validating proof residues for power 8
2020-10-21 18:22:31 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 Proof using power 8
2020-10-21 18:22:33 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 800 0.00%; 1900 us/it; ETA 1d 17:08; 1579c241dc63eca6 (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:22:51 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 10000 0.01%; 1880 us/it; ETA 1d 16:42; fc4f135f7cf4ad29 (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:23:11 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 20000 0.03%; 1881 us/it; ETA 1d 16:42; 3cd1bd9d5e09cbc5 (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:23:30 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 30000 0.04%; 1880 us/it; ETA 1d 16:41; c4e0ff35e3290d98 (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:23:50 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 40000 0.05%; 1880 us/it; ETA 1d 16:41; dffe1b1b0d748128 (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:24:10 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 50000 0.06%; 1880 us/it; ETA 1d 16:41; 52e286945371ed29 (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:24:29 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 60000 0.08%; 1893 us/it; ETA 1d 16:58; 0945da4dc08bdd95 (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:24:49 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 70000 0.09%; 1880 us/it; ETA 1d 16:39; 7131fa4eb77f4bb2 (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:25:09 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 80000 0.10%; 1881 us/it; ETA 1d 16:40; 8d76071d27ee4221 (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:25:28 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 90000 0.12%; 1880 us/it; ETA 1d 16:39; 0bacff453b2f470e (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:25:48 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 100000 0.13%; 1880 us/it; ETA 1d 16:39; 6d7296b9e2830f50 (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:26:07 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 110000 0.14%; 1880 us/it; ETA 1d 16:39; 8cbfd4435622bda7 (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:26:27 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 120000 0.15%; 1880 us/it; ETA 1d 16:39; 79ae5dad855057ad (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:26:47 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 130000 0.17%; 1880 us/it; ETA 1d 16:38; 50c97bcbf876231f (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:27:06 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 140000 0.18%; 1881 us/it; ETA 1d 16:39; e1db15f897271496 (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:27:26 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 150000 0.19%; 1893 us/it; ETA 1d 16:54; 127631386c6a9b17 (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:27:46 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 160000 0.21%; 1880 us/it; ETA 1d 16:37; 25b7b6206fc6f085 (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:28:05 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 170000 0.22%; 1880 us/it; ETA 1d 16:37; 416816b0d9f4bba8 (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:28:25 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 180000 0.23%; 1880 us/it; ETA 1d 16:36; 6bee5d054f770861 (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:28:44 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 190000 0.24%; 1880 us/it; ETA 1d 16:36; f37f068f014b18a0 (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:29:04 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 200000 0.26%; 1881 us/it; ETA 1d 16:37; f0b04b45b0855bd2 (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:29:24 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 210000 0.27%; 1880 us/it; ETA 1d 16:35; 43eb2fc2424d8aac (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:29:43 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 220000 0.28%; 1881 us/it; ETA 1d 16:36; a1081c6dc6a7689f (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:30:03 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 230000 0.30%; 1880 us/it; ETA 1d 16:35; 2387818d3d3d0d01 (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:30:23 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 240000 0.31%; 1886 us/it; ETA 1d 16:43; a9deae45055e5216 (check 0.84s)
2020-10-21 18:30:42 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 250000 0.32%; 1887 us/it; ETA 1d 16:44; 89fcab15218f7cac (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:31:02 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 260000 0.33%; 1881 us/it; ETA 1d 16:35; 55da428da4cf928a (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:31:21 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 270000 0.35%; 1880 us/it; ETA 1d 16:34; dc349756c5f05abf (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:31:41 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 280000 0.36%; 1880 us/it; ETA 1d 16:34; 3564af24488443f4 (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:32:01 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 290000 0.37%; 1880 us/it; ETA 1d 16:33; 63fb281a06f78198 (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:32:19 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 Stopping, please wait..
2020-10-21 18:32:20 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 77936867 OK 300000 0.38%; 1880 us/it; ETA 1d 16:33; 990aa099aad5bf9c (check 0.80s)
2020-10-21 18:32:20 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 Exiting because "stop requested"
2020-10-21 18:32:20 GeForce RTX 2080 Ti-0 Bye[/CODE]

That's it, 1880 us/it, tested at stock settings (or rather stock overclocking settings), but with AIO slapped on it, so it doesn't suffocate from the heat under the chunky stock cooler.

BTW:
ASUS ROG Strix 2080Ti O11G
Stock cooler on stock settings -> about 70 to 80 °C under max load
AIO on stock settings -> never above 45 °C under max load

Watercooling is the way to go!

[QUOTE=Viliam Furik;560548](BTW FP32 is what we want for TF)[/QUOTE]I don't think so. Consider that the source code for mfaktc contains lots of uint32, occasional uint or uint64, and no float declarations in gpusieve.c, my_types.h; a mix of int and float in the kernel code. We want good performance in int 24 and 32, and float.

Thank you, the values ​​will be more like an RTX 3080, of course without further SP/DP improvements from Preda.