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[QUOTE=sweety439;462453]Conjecture: If k is not Sierpinski/Riesel in base b, then k*b is also not Sierpinski/Riesel in base b[/QUOTE]
This seems to be trivially false. It may be that \(k\cdot b^1\pm 1\) is a prime, which makes \(k\) not be a S/R, but all \(k\cdot b^n\pm 1\) (with the correspondent side plus or minus) be composite for any \(n\ge 2\), which makes \(kb\) a S/R number. Of course, I know this is not a proof, but few counterexamples of this kind could be given to your conjecture for sure. I remember myself not long ago (the discussion is here on the forum) being unhappy with one or two bases where one or two k's were eliminated as having primes for n=1, and trying to "re-eliminate" the respective k "properly", by finding a higher prime, so I searched from n=2 to n=200k or so, I didn't find any prime, and I gave up, running with the tail between my legs... |
[QUOTE=LaurV;462487]This seems to be trivially false. It may be that \(k\cdot b^1\pm 1\) is a prime, which makes \(k\) not be a S/R, but all \(k\cdot b^n\pm 1\) (with the correspondent side plus or minus) be composite for any \(n\ge 2\), which makes \(kb\) a S/R number.
Of course, I know this is not a proof, but few counterexamples of this kind could be given to your conjecture for sure. I remember myself not long ago (the discussion is here on the forum) being unhappy with one or two bases where one or two k's were eliminated as having primes for n=1, and trying to "re-eliminate" the respective k "properly", by finding a higher prime, so I searched from n=2 to n=200k or so, I didn't find any prime, and I gave up, running with the tail between my legs...[/QUOTE] I conjectured that these k's eventually get a prime (the condition is that these k's does not have a covering set, or make a full covering set with all or partial algebraic factors, e.g. for (1*4^n-1)/3 (R4, k=1), it is prime [B][I]only for[/I][/B] n=2 since it has full algebraic factors) |
If there is no n such that k*b^n is perfect power, then (k*b^n-1)/gcd(k-1,b-1) has no algebraic factors.
If there is no n such that k*b^n is either perfect odd power (of the form m^r with odd r>1) or of the form 4*m^4, then (k*b^n+1)/gcd(k+1,b-1) has no algebraic factors. Conjecture: If (k*b^n+-1)/gcd(k+-1,b-1) has no algebraic factors and all numbers of the form (k*b^n+-1)/gcd(k+-1,b-1) are not prime, then (k*b^n+-1)/gcd(k+-1,b-1) must have a covering set of prime factors, and all the prime factors in the covering set divides (b^576-1)/(b-1). |
(k*b^n-1)/gcd(k-1,b-1) has algebraic factors if and only if k*b^n is a perfect power.
(k*b^n+1)/gcd(k+1,b-1) has algebraic factors.if and only if k*b^n is either perfect odd power (of the form m^r with odd r>1) or of the form 4*m^4. Conjecture: If all numbers of the form (k*b^n+-1)/gcd(k+-1,b-1) are not prime, then (k*b^n+-1)/gcd(k+-1,b-1) must have a covering set of prime factors for the n's such that (k*b^n+-1)/gcd(k+-1,b-1) has no algebraic factors, and all the prime factors in the covering set divides (b^576-1)/(b-1). |
For bases b such that b+1 = 2*p, with p odd prime, p = 3 mod 4, the smallest Sierpinski number base b is usually b+2, and the smallest Riesel number base b is usually 2*b+3. The covering set for them are both {2, p}. (although there are counterexamples, but very few, the only two counterexamples for such Sierpinski/Riesel bases b<=128 are R37 (CK=29, covering set = {2, 5, 7, 13, 67}) and R117 (CK=149, covering set = {2, 5, 37}))
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Conjecture: The period for the covering set for the smallest Sierpinski/Riesel number base b must divide 576. (if this conjecture is true, then all primes in the covering set satisfy that ord_p(b) divides 576, and if p divides b-1, then p=2 or p=3)
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Found the all CK<=10000 for all extended Sierpinski/Riesel problem bases 129<=b<=1024, the text file lists "NA" if and only if CK>10000 for this Sierpinski/Riesel base.
Note: I only tested the primes p<=30000, and I only searched (k*b^n+-1)/gcd(k+-1,b-1) for exponent n<=1500. |
[QUOTE=sweety439;461488](4*115^4223-1)/3 is (probable) prime!!!
We solved k=4 for the smallest Riesel base with k=4 remaining!!! (115 [I][B]was[/B][/I] the smallest Riesel base without known (probable) prime for k=4, excluding the bases b = 14 mod 15 (for such bases, k=4 has a covering set {3, 5}) and the bases b = m^2 (for such bases, k=4 has full algebra factors: 4*(m^2)^n-1 = (2*m^n-1) * (2*m^n+1)) and the bases b = 4 mod 5 (for such bases, k=4 has partial algebra factors: even n factors to (2*b^(n/2)-1) * (2*b^(n/2)+1), odd n has factor of 5). Now, the smallest Riesel base with k=4 remaining is 178. Note: R72 does not have k=4 remaining, 4*72^1119849-1 is prime, see CRUS. This is the text file for Riesel k=4 for all bases 2<=b<=256, tested to [B][I]at least[/I][/B] n=2000, there are 3 remain Riesel bases 2<=b<=256 for k=4: R178, R223 and R232 (the n's for R72, R212 and R218 are given by CRUS). In fact, I know exactly which Sierpinski/Riesel bases 2<=b<=1024 have k=1, k=2, k=3, and k=4 remaining at n=1000, even including the non-tested Sierpinski/Riesel bases, since I have tested these k's for these Sierpinski/Riesel bases to [B][I]at least[/I][/B] n=1000 (without comparing with CRUS). Besides, k=1, k=2, k=3, and k=4 for all Sierpinski/Riesel bases 2<=b<=256 have been tested to [B][I]at least[/I][/B] n=2000 by me (also without comparing with CRUS). (all of the CK's for all Sierpinski/Riesel bases 2<=b<=1024 are >= 4, i.e. no Sierpinski/Riesel bases 2<=b<=1024 have CK = 1, 2, or 3. Besides, a Sierpinski/Riesel base 2<=b<=1024 have CK = 4 if and only if b = 14 mod 15) R107 is an interesting base, it is not only the smallest Riesel base with k=2 remaining at n=2000, but also the second smallest Riesel base with k=3 remaining at n=2000. (the smallest Riesel base with k=3 remaining at n=2000 is 42, but 3*42^2523-1 is prime). Another interesting base is S899, this base is the only Sierpinski/Riesel base 2<=b<=1024 with all k=1, k=2, and k=3 remaining at n=1000. Besides, the CK for S899 is only 4, thus, [B][I]all[/I][/B] k < CK for this base are remaining at n=1000 (S899 is the only such Sierpinski/Riesel base 2<=b<=1024). The bases which are excluded for the k's are: [B]Sierpinski k=1: [/B] b = m^r with odd r > 1 proven composite by full algebra factors. [B]Sierpinski k=2: [/B] none. [B]Sierpinski k=3:[/B] none. [B]Sierpinski k=4:[/B] b = 14 mod 15: covering set {3, 5}. b = m^4 proven composite by full algebra factors. [B]Riesel k=1:[/B] b = m^r with r > 1 proven composite by full algebra factors. [B]Riesel k=2:[/B] none. [B]Riesel k=3:[/B] none. [B]Riesel k=4:[/B] b = 14 mod 15: covering set {3, 5}. b = m^2 proven composite by full algebra factors. b = 4 mod 5: odd n, factor of 5; even n, algebraic factors.[/QUOTE] The first few bases remain at n=1024 for these k's are: [B]Sierpinski k=1:[/B] 31, 38, 50, 55, 62, 63, 67, 68, 77, 83, 86, 89, 91, 92, 97, 98, 99, 104, 107, 109, 122, 123, 127, 135, 137, 143, 144, 147, 149, ... [B]Sierpinski k=2:[/B] 38, 101, 104, 167, 206, 218, 236, 257, 287, 305, ... [B]Sierpinski k=3:[/B] 83, 123, 191, 261, 293, 303, ... [B]Sierpinski k=4:[/B] 32, 53, 77, 83, 107, 113, 155, 161, 174, 204, 206, 212, 227, 230, ... [B]Riesel k=1:[/B] 51, 91, 135, 142, 152, 174, 184, 185, 200, 230, 244, 259, 269, 281, 284, 311, ... [B]Riesel k=2:[/B] 107, 170, 215, 233, 254, 276, 278, 298, 303, 380, 382, 383, ... [B]Riesel k=3:[/B] 42, 107, 159, 283, 295, 347, 359, ... [B]Riesel k=4:[/B] 47, 72, 115, 163, 167, 178, 212, 218, 223, 232, 240, 270, ... |
[QUOTE=sweety439;461400]Note: I don't have the prime for S46 k=283, I only know this prime is between n=15K and n=25K.[/QUOTE]
The prime for S46 k=283 is 283*46^21198+1. |
(11*75^3071+1)/2 is (probable) prime!!!
S75 is proven!!! |
(21*73^1531+1)/2 is (probable) prime!!!
S73 is now a 1k base. |
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